Hey, Giant fans. Welcome to the Giant Insider podcast. My name is Jerry Foley. I'm the senior editor of the Giant Insider newspaper. And with me, as always, is the beat writer in the heart of Giants Nation. Chris Visignan. So, Chris, anything new happening around the Giants these days or what, but?

No, just baggy day, everybody left. No.

Wow.

Well, I guess what was expected, right, happened.

Yeah.

With the release, with the firing of Pat Sharma.

Yeah.

I guess, listen, Jerry, we've been saying it for weeks.

We expected it. Yeah. In my opinion, I think I speak for you too here. It was deserved. Yes. Now, I hate to see it, you know, because a lot of people don't realize that when a head coach is fired, that means assistants get fired, right? Yeah. Family's got to get, you know, uprooted. It affects a lot of people's lives. And trust what I tell you, man. You know, it wasn't a happy, you know, atmosphere around the building today. It really wasn't. Right. You know, it's sort of like a sad type feeling, you know, a guy gets fired, you know? Yeah. A guy that a lot of players did like, you know, and talking to players today, there was no, you know, happiness around, oh, you know, nothing like that, you know. But it was a move that was necessary, Jerry. I guess, you know, you look at yesterday's game, right? And it basically sums up Sherman's tenure here, right?

It's two years.

Yeah, I was going to say, Chris, what we thought would happen was actually two-pronged and

happened, right?

The other part was Gettelman stayed.

You and I were saying we're pretty sure Gettelman's going to stay.

Right. Mara made a comment at his presser today, which you attended,

that most fans, you know, wanted him to stay.

I'd say 30% based on our Twitter, our Twitter followers.

I would say 70% wanted him gone.

But that wasn't too much of a surprise either that Gettelman stayed,

for me or you, at least. Wasn't a surprise. Not only did we say he was going to stay,

or we kind of predicted there's a very good chance he was going to stay. Not only we say that,

but we also said that he deserves to stay. Now, I know a lot of people don't feel like that,

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