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Prevail with Greg Olear

The German Spies at Pearl Harbor? Those Were My Grandparents (with Chris­tine Kuehn & Mark Schiponi)

Prevail with Greg Olear

Greg Olear & MSW Media

Politics, News, News Commentary

5.0 • 630 Ratings

🗓️ 30 November 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

What happens when you discover that the reason your father never speaks about his parents or his childhood growing up in Hawaii is because his mother, father, and older sister were Nazi spies? And not just any Nazi spies–the spies sent by Berlin to help the Japanese surveil Pearl Harbor? Chris­tine Kuehn was living a qui­et sub­ur­ban life when a mys­te­ri­ous let­ter in 1994 pierced that bub­ble, send­ing her on a thir­ty-year quest to dis­cov­er the truth behind a hor­ren­dous fam­i­ly secret kept hid­den for half a cen­tu­ry. The result is the new book, FAMILY OF SPIES. Fol­low­ing a career in jour­nal­ism, pub­lic rela­tions, and non­prof­its, Chris­tine now lives in Mary­land with her hus­band, Mark Schiponi, who helped her research the book for 30 years. In this conversation, Greg Olear talks to the couple about how the book came to be, the long and unusual research process, and the emotional impact of learning the truth.

Transcript

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MSW Media.

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You know, when we started this process, it was the story about the only person ever tried and convicted for the bombing of Pearl Harbor.

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That was kind of where we landed because we knew her grandfather was that guy.

0:17.6

Preveo.

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It's a shot of Geneva program pro-politico. History? The security national. Crime in order. Hello, this is a two-dove program about politics.

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The history of the national.

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Crime organized, money, soo, global group, and to be a democracy.

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And now, and now, with you, your ambition,

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Reg. Reg. Regoal. Thank you. And now, Come you, this is a bit more, Gregolier.

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Gregolier.

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Gregor.

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Thank you.

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I'm Greg side will win.

0:57.5

I'm Greg Oliar, and this is Prevail.

0:58.8

Welcome to the program.

1:00.5

We've got a great show.

1:04.1

Christine Kewan and Mark Shaponi are here.

1:09.7

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