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rational security, chatter, law fair no bull, and the aftermath.

These attacks took place within the United States, these intrusions,

and there are right now legal barriers and disincentives for the private sector

to share information with the government.

We have a difficulty as a government understanding the totality of the actual intrusion.

So that's being worked.

And the second piece, as I had mentioned to the chairman,

we have an inability to see everything.

So we, as U.S. Cyber Command or the National Security Agency,

may see what is occurring outside of the United States.

But when it comes into the United States, our adversaries are moving very quickly.

They understand the laws and the policies that we have within our nation.

And so they are utilizing our own infrastructure, our own internet service providers,

to create these intrusions.

I'm Benjamin Wittes and this is the LawFair podcast March 29, 2021.

Last Thursday, the Senate Armed Services Committee held an open hearing

that reviewed U.S. Cyber Command and Special Operation Command's defense authorization requests for fiscal year 2022.

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