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Faith Lab

The genealogies don't match. That might be the point.

Faith Lab

Nate Hanson

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4.6583 Ratings

🗓️ 25 February 2026

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

Matthew and Luke don't give us the same family tree, and the census in Luke has been called a historical invention. So why would anyone still trust the birth narratives?

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0:00.0

If we're going to trust any birth narratives from the ancient world, then I think the gospel

0:03.6

birth narratives should be among the foremost of those.

0:05.8

Can you actually trust the gospel birth narratives? I'm Nate Hansen, and today on Faith Lab,

0:10.7

we're getting into the hard questions, the census, the genealogies, with New Testament

0:15.1

scholar Caleb Friedman, who studied 95 ancient biographies and found something that reframes how we should evaluate

0:22.1

Matthew and Luke.

0:23.1

I take a sample of 95 biographies outside the Gospels that I look at their birth material

0:29.3

and analyze it.

0:30.5

So 95 biographies from authors like Cornelius Nepos, Pilo, Plutarch, Suetonius.

0:35.7

One of the things I analyze is the time elapsed between when the

0:40.3

person was born and then when the biographer wrote. So how much time was there between

0:44.6

when this person was born and the biographer who's writing about it? On average, across all those

0:49.7

95 biographies, the average time elapsed is 360 years. So what that means is in the vast

0:56.7

majority of cases, even when the biographers are doing their very best work, the best that they

1:00.5

have to rely on is typically written sources. So very, very, very rarely are they having a chance

1:06.8

to go and talk to either eyewitnesses or people who knew eyewitnesses. And when you run that same

1:12.7

comparison for Matthew and Luke, now, obviously, scholars differ as to when Matthew and Luke were

1:17.1

written, but even if you just kind of take a midline, this is a general consensus kind of date,

1:22.6

you know, Matthew and Luke are breathing rarefied air when it comes to their proximity to the events they're reporting.

1:28.9

And they would have almost certainly had the opportunity to interview people who were close

1:33.8

to eyewitnesses. So, for example, Jesus' brother James or Jude or perhaps the Apostle Peter,

1:41.4

they would have almost certainly had access to people like that in their

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