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The Brian Lehrer Show

The Gen Z Intimacy Recession

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

Politics, News, News Commentary, Wnyc, Radio, Npr, Arts, New, Lerer, Media, Bryan, Nyc, Daily News, York, Public

4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 7 August 2025

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

Carter Sherman talks about the decline in sex and intimacy among young people and what role the internet and hookup culture have played in shaping a generation's new cultural mores.

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0:00.0

Brian Laird on WNYC and call it a crisis or a recession or just a trend, but apparently

0:17.0

young people are having less sex than past generations. We'll say first that the trend

0:22.5

is bigger than just being about sex. By most measures, Gen Z is an especially lonely and anxious

0:28.1

generation, dating, sex, emotional vulnerability. They've been shaped by sexual politics, social

0:34.1

media, and the internet generally, and by the pandemic. As their lives are increasingly

0:39.4

lived online, intimacy is mediated more and more through social media, like TikTok, and dating

0:45.8

apps. That makes it all the more difficult to forge a connection and keep one going, and reportedly,

0:51.8

one way this all expresses is through less sexual activity.

0:55.2

Joining us to talk about this is Carter Sherman, author of The Second Coming, Sex and the Next

1:01.3

Generation's Fight Over Its Future, published this year by Gallery Books. And Carter's a reproductive

1:07.9

health and justice journalist at The Guardian.

1:11.0

Carter, thanks for coming on.

1:12.1

Welcome to WNYC.

1:13.8

Thank you so much for having me.

1:15.6

Let's get everyone on the same page.

1:17.4

When we say sex recession, what are we talking about?

1:21.0

Well, I think you defined it pretty well.

1:23.1

It's the phenomenon wherein younger people, Gen Z, are having less sex than previous generations.

1:29.2

And there are numerous studies that show that this is occurring.

1:32.1

One in four adult members of Gen Z has not had sex with another person.

1:36.4

We know that only about a third of high school students have had sex, which is down from about

1:41.4

half back when I was in high school around 15 years ago.

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