The Gaza Cease-Fire, With Steven Cook

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Council on Foreign Relations

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🗓️ 28 January 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Steven Cook, the Eni Enrico Mattei Senior Fellow for Middle East and Africa Studies at CFR, sits down with James M. Lindsay to discuss how the Israel-Hamas cease-fire over Gaza came together, what the agreement requires each side to do, and what will come next. Mentioned on the Episode Steven Cook, “Israel and Hamas Reach Cease-Fire, but Will the War End?” CFR.org Steven Cook, “Israelis and Palestinians Both Lost Their Futures,” Foreign Policy Steven Cook, The End of Ambition: America's Past, Present, and Future in the Middle East For an episode transcript and show notes, visit The President’s Inbox at: https://www.cfr.org/podcasts/tpi/gaza-ceasefire-steven-cook

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0:00.0	Welcome to the President's inbox. I'm Jim Lindsay, the Mary and David Boyes,
0:07.8	distinguished senior fellow in U.S. foreign policy at the Council on Foreign Relations.
0:13.1	This week's topic is the Gaza ceasefire.
0:28.1	With me to discuss how the Israel Hamas ceasefire in Gaza came together, and its prospects for holding is Stephen Cook. Stephen is the E. and I. Enrico Matai Senior Fellow for Middle
0:34.2	East and Africa Studies here at the Council on Foreign Relations. He has
0:38.6	written four books on Middle East politics, the latest being the end of ambition, America's
0:44.2	past, present, and future in the Middle East. He recently wrote an expert brief for CFR.org titled
0:50.2	Israel and Hamas reached ceasefire, but will the war end? In an article for foreign policy
0:56.8	titled, Israelis and Palestinians both lost their futures. Stephen, thank you for coming back on
1:03.6	the president's inbox. Thanks for having me, Jim. Well, Stephen, let's begin with sort of the basic
1:08.7	question. What did Israel and Hamas agree to well they agreed to
1:13.6	a three-phased framework agreement that brings the fighting in the gaza strip to an end the first phase
1:21.2	is six weeks long and that will result in the release of 33 Israeli hostages and somewhere in the neighborhood of
1:32.1	1900 Palestinians in Israeli prisons.
1:36.4	On this 16th day of the first phase of the ceasefire, negotiations will begin over the second phase of the ceasefire,
1:48.1	which will cover more hostage releases as well as Israeli withdrawals from the Gaza Strip.
1:57.1	Then that will lead to negotiations for the third phase, which will be reconstruction, governance,
2:06.4	and potentially negotiations that will ultimately end the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians.
2:12.8	Of course, there's a tremendous amount of skepticism, skepticism that I share share that Israel and Hamas will get past even the first phase of the ceasefire.
2:22.8	Okay.
2:23.1	Let's hold off on the skepticism for a moment, Stephen, and just sort of lay it all out.
2:27.4	When you say the ceasefire brings violence to a halt, do we know how long it will bring it to a halt for? And do we have an
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