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This is a podcast from The Times. Go to The Times. Go to the game podcast this week I'm delighted I'm just to be joined on the phone by two very hard northern types, George

Colkin and of course Matt Hughes, and also Allison Rudd in the studio.

I'm a hard northern type two. Yes, as one can tell from your accent.

Bath Grass.

Ordinarily, as you know, we would be looking at two football matches in our initial

talking point segment and then going with a debate but because our

producer Chris Skinner has decided to be all London centric we're going to start

at the top with the departure of Andre de la Spois.

And who better to start with than Matt Hughes,

the man who in Monday's times told us that Harry Rednap is the shock name for Chelsea but

Matt I want to take a step back. What's your understanding of the circumstances of

Villas Bullce's departure.

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