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Welcome to another edition of Inside Carolina's Game Plan podcast. Greg Barnes will join us in a minute.

I'm Tommy Ashley. That's Jason Staples,

response by Johnny T-shirt and Congruity. Jason, Wake Forest comes to town Saturday night, 8 o'clock at Kenan Stadium.

And North Carolina and Wait Forest have played some crazy football games over the last four or five years four or five years what is it that

makes Wake Forest such a difficult matchup for Carolina obviously Sam Hartman no

longer there and some of those receivers are gone, but it always

has seemed like it's just one of those type games for Carolina.

Yeah, I think the biggest thing is that it has been, Wake Forest has had some quality

quarterback play for some years, and they've been a team that's

built up until recently they've been a team that's built pretty heavily through recruiting

guys that they could develop in-house and then be veteran teams so you know you're playing

teams that have a lot of third, fourth,

and fifth year guys playing. They also for a while, I mean, they did a great job of evaluating

and recruiting top tier receiver talent. They had some beasts out wide. I mean, six, four,

six five guys that could run and were tough to cover. And then you pair

that with an offensive system that's different from anything else you see all year. And it just

becomes a headache. So, you know, those factors, not all of those factors are in place quite as

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