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We're here to talk about North Carolina State, North Carolina.

Greg, I'm going to come to you first.

Jason, I don't know if you've read Greg's article.

I read it just now, but Greg, you sort of nailed it about why this game's important on Saturday.

Yeah, Tommy.

And it really is kind of a matter of what the fan base and the administration is expecting in terms of program success.

We all know that trajectory is on,

there's been a good one under Mac Brown.

When nine games last year,

sitting at eight and three this year.

They've had some really good quarterbacks in Sam Howe and Drake May last five years.

And I really think this is,

this is important for the program to have success on Saturday

and to have success in the postseason to at least get to nine wins to match last year

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