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Tees and sees apply. Check the game podcast. I'm Gabriel Marcotte and this week I'm joined by the Times

Online zone Ben Smith from the Midlands Mr. Peter Lansley and of course Patty Bartley.

Today we'll be discussing Chelsea's narrow defeat in the Midlands

as well as the North London Darby.

Plus in our debate we'll be asking our panel why the same 20 Premier League managers

who started the season are all still there. So please join us for the next 35 minutes or so. All right, we're going to start up in North London at Ashburton Grove,

Arsenal and Tottenham, for those who missed the game I thought it was a rather exciting

arsenal going two nil up and then Tautenham storming back now I'm gonna throw

something out there and start with you Patty.

While it's great and people talk about Harry's halftime team talk and the hex is over and all the stuff.

I mean I thought Arsenal could and should have won that game and still had the chances even in the second half to win that game.

Am I off base here?

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