The Gacy Tapes Ep. 32: Jury To The Right
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🗓️ 29 January 2022
⏱️ 109 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | The trial of the century has arrived. |
| 0:05.7 | Bill Conkel has had to navigate through some very murky waters in order to put his witness |
| 0:09.9 | so staggather. |
| 0:10.9 | There were some very serious decisions that had to be made, starting first and foremost, |
| 0:16.1 | with whether or not the state would charge David Kram and Michael Rossi, or whether they |
| 0:21.4 | would use them to testify against, for lack of a better term, their partner in crime. |
| 0:27.0 | As you've listened to the tapes throughout the course of the season, Mata Senior spent |
| 0:30.7 | a lot of time focusing on Kram and Rossi, as he was convinced early on, the state would |
| 0:36.2 | use the pair against the creeper trial. |
| 0:39.6 | Because of this sneaking suspicion, he did everything in his power to get Gacy to slip |
| 0:43.8 | up and spill just exactly how much these two men knew about the thief of lives and his |
| 0:50.0 | dastardly deeds. |
| 0:51.0 | He would never end up getting Gacy to crack and spill the beans about his former employees. |
| 0:56.7 | Now, the way that it works, as both sides prepare for trial, is that they must provide |
| 1:01.9 | the other side with witness lists early on and supplement it as time progresses. |
| 1:07.3 | The surprise witness thing that you see in movies and on TV is not a real thing. |
| 1:12.2 | Now that is not to say that it has never happened in the history of American jurisprudence |
| 1:16.4 | because it has, but there must be some serious extenuating circumstances for the judge |
| 1:22.0 | to allow a witness who was not disclosed by either side to testify. |
| 1:27.5 | If the judge is going to allow testimony of the mystery witness, he will give opposing |
| 1:31.8 | counsel the opportunity to interview the witness before they take the stand. |
| 1:36.9 | So while the concept makes for great plot twists and turns in movies and books, the reality |
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