I'm going down that rabbit hole.

What science fiction do we need these days, Reed?

So the thing that was really magical for me, but for us, you know, in the 60s, 70s, 80s,

even to some degree the early 90s, was a notion that what we're creating with technology,

what we're creating as the possible

human future, can be amazing.

Like this sense of the world could be much better for all human beings, not to say without

big challenges and navigations and issues, but it could be.

And you don't have to be as simplistic as like the Jetsons, but it's just kind of a sense of what does the path ahead look like?

There are only a handful of entrepreneurs who it's safe to say that their companies change the way we do things.

Reid Hoffman is one of those entrepreneurs and LinkedIn is one of those companies.

There was a time when posting our resumes online would get us fired.

Now, being on LinkedIn is just how we work.

His mentality of giving power back to the people has permeated every aspect

of Reed's life, even his full embrace of AI and what it can do for humanity, which he writes

about in his book Super Agency. But it was our conversation about idealism, the need for it and what happened to it that really

inspired me.

This is a bit of optimism.

What did you want to be when you were a kid?

Oh, that's interesting.

The different phases.

It was, I'd say the first thought was probably a science fiction author because I was reading a lot of science fiction.

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