Hi, I'm Annamarie Cox and welcome to With Friends Like These.

We try to stay evergreen here with friends like these.

We want people to be able to listen in any order at any time they want and we want to

know not trigger people too much, especially in the last year or so.

We've wanted to stay away from the headlines, although obviously we touch on current events.

This week is different.

This week is both evergreen and urgent.

It is urgent and up to the minute because I'll be interviewing Adam Sirware, a writer at

the Atlantic, about Biden's agenda, the legacy of Trump, and the continued struggle to rid

the country of white supremacy.

It's evergreen because none of those topics are going away.

And Adam's criticisms of the call for unity will be relevant until unity is possible, which

might be a while.

Adam Sirware, coming right up.

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