The future of USAID.
Tangle
Isaac Saul
4.7 • 821 Ratings
🗓️ 4 February 2025
⏱️ 35 minutes
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Summary
On Monday, following a week of upheaval at the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), Secretary of State Marco Rubio announced he had taken over as acting administrator of the agency and told lawmakers that he intends to work with Congress to reorganize it. Rubio’s statement ran counter to comments made earlier in the day by Elon Musk, who said that he and President Donald Trump had decided to shut down USAID. These conflicting remarks and efforts by representatives of Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) to curtail the agency’s operations have created uncertainty about the agency’s future.
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| 1:20.1 | Good morning, good afternoon and good evening and welcome to the Tangle podcast, |
| 1:24.6 | the place where you get views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking, and a little bit of our take. I'm your host for today, Ari Whiteman, |
| 1:31.9 | and we're going to be talking about USAID. What's going on at the agency? What Trump says he wants |
| 1:36.9 | to do? What Elon Musk says they want to do. What Marco Rubio says they want to do and what's |
| 1:41.3 | been going on with funding and announcements coming out of the |
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