The Future of Safe AI Interaction

The Playbook With David Meltzer

David Meltzer, Entrepreneur.com

Entrepreneurship, Business, Careers

4.6 • 1.9K Ratings

🗓️ 7 November 2025

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Summary

In today’s episode, I sit down with Christopher Trocola, CEO and founder of ARC Defense Systems, to talk about what it means to build ethical technology in a world moving faster than its own guardrails. We discuss the current state of AI—how it’s being used, abused, and misunderstood—and the urgent need for compliance that protects people, not just systems. Christopher explains how ARC acts as a barrier between human behavior and machine learning, creating a safer space for both to coexist. He also shares how faith, resilience, and personal conviction shape his mission to protect humanity from its own creation.

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0:00.0	Welcome to entrepreneurs the playbook. I'm David Meltzer, and we're going to get hyper-intelligent today with our next CEO and founder of Arc Defense System.
0:10.2	He's an incredible competitor on GoFund Yourself, Christopher Trocola. Welcome to the Playbook.
0:18.2	It is a pleasure to be here. Thanks for having me.
0:20.8	Oh, trust me. I love the conversation that
0:24.0	we're about to have. The reason I know that is I love the company that you have and you as an entrepreneur
0:29.2	are truly an icon in a very crowded and cumbersome space when we talk about the current state of
0:37.0	AI and where it's going and how close we
0:40.9	are to this ubiquitous superintelligence that I think is coming faster than most people realize.
0:47.5	Let's start with the current state of AI because your business deals with where we are today
0:52.5	and where we think we're going to be in the future.
0:56.0	Give me a little bit of your analysis of what's stable,
0:59.0	what's doing well, what you think will be doing well in the future,
1:03.0	applicable to arc defense systems.
1:05.0	Yeah, absolutely.
1:06.0	AI is, I guess the best way to put it's the wild wild west right now, right?
1:11.3	I think we're all seeing that.
1:14.2	I'm looking at it from that hierarchy of business.
1:18.2	First come the dreamers, the bankers, salespeople, sharks, and thieves, right?
1:23.2	We're still in the bankers era.
1:24.4	So salespeople are kind of figuring out what they can sell,
1:28.1	how they can sell it. And I think that's where most of fraud is coming from most of the
1:35.1	unwitting participants of deceptive practices with AIs coming into play, not having ethics
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