The future of remote work

Explain It to Me

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🗓️ 5 February 2021

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Economist Adam Ozimek from Upwork joins Matt to discuss the future of remote work, post-pandemic. They discuss the implications for migration, local governance, and the elusive concept of work/life balance. Resources: "Economist Report: Future Workforce" by Adam Ozimek (Dec. 2020) Guest: Adam Ozimek (@ModeledBehavior), Chief Economist, Upwork Host: Matt Yglesias (@mattyglesias), Slowboring.com Credits: Erikk Geannikis, Editor and Producer As the Biden administration gears up, we'll help you understand this unprecedented burst of policymaking. Sign up for The Weeds newsletter each Friday: vox.com/weeds-newsletter. The Weeds is a Vox Media Podcast Network production. Want to support The Weeds? Please consider making a contribution to Vox: bit.ly/givepodcasts About Vox Vox is a news network that helps you cut through the noise and understand what's really driving the events in the headlines. Follow Us: Vox.com Facebook group: The Weeds Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello, welcome to another episode of The Weeds on the Box Media Podcast Network.
0:13.5	I'm Ethri Glacias, my guest today, Adam Ozemack is a chief economist at Upwork and a leading
0:19.8	authority, I would say, on remote work, which is integral to Upwork's business model.
0:26.6	I think a lot of people are thinking about remote work now because of the pandemic, thinking
0:30.7	about the future.
0:32.3	Part of what's great about Adam's research on this is that it's actually something you've
0:36.6	been thinking about since before the pandemic, which I think provides some better insights
0:43.5	into this.
0:44.5	Adam, welcome.
0:45.5	Thanks for having me, glad to be here.
0:47.3	So something that I think is interesting, that a lot of people get wrong about this,
0:54.3	is not understanding what the baseline was for remote work and what the trends were
1:02.1	before COVID hit.
1:04.6	And I remember I learned this from you.
1:05.8	I was actually surprised, fewer people worked remotely than I had realized.
1:11.7	It helps you understand how big a change this is.
1:16.2	What do we know if you flashed back to January 2020?
1:21.5	What was going on with remote?
1:23.7	So it's surprisingly tough thing to get a great measure on because it depends exactly what
1:30.3	you're asking.
1:31.5	If you ask someone, are you working from home, that's a different thing from working remotely
1:36.2	because home is only one of the places you can work remotely.
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