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I'm here with my good friend Chris Kermitsos today. Super excited to have the state of podcasting conversation today. First off, I want to mention this about Chris. He is the founder

of Podfest Multimedia Expo, and it is a conference and organization and community that I

absolutely love. If I'm a product of anything in podcasting, it's actually Podfest. So Chris,

thank you first and foremost for that. And congratulations within last year getting a Guinness World

Record alongside that as well. We might get into that for just a second. And you do a lot in podcasting. We'll probably break into all these different things.

But even your wife, Katie, has Women's Meditation Network, which is just like absolutely crushing

it, stellar. And you're really getting into the blockchain stuff, which I think is kind of

involved with the future of podcasting. So many different things. And the last thing I'll mention, because I know I'm just like kind of ranting here about my friend Chris, but he has a book called

Start Ugly, which is a book that literally changed the way that I do business. And the success I've

seen is a direct impact that his book had on me. So anyway, Chris, that introduction there,

I'm glad you're here, man. Thank you so much. Alex, thank you for having me.

Yeah, I'm really excited to chat with you today. So we're just going to be talking about a little bit, I mentioned because it started, is it 2004?

Is that when podcasting began?

Yeah, four or five, somewhere around there, but you're pretty much within the year.

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