Offensive penetration testing or offensive pen testing involves actively probing a system,

network, or application to identify and exploit vulnerabilities, mimicking the tactics of real-world

attackers.

The goal is to assess security weaknesses and provide actionable insights to strengthen defenses

before malicious actors can exploit them.

Bishop Fox is a private professional services firm focused on offensive security testing.

Mark Goodwin is the director of operations at Bishop Fox, and he was previously an officer in the

U.S. Air Force where he did cyberspace operations.

Mark joins the podcast with Gregor Van to talk about Bishop Fox and the future

of offensive pen testing. Gregor Van is a security focused technologist and is the founder and

CTO of MailPass. Previously, Gregor was a CTO across cybersecurity, cyber insurance, and

general software engineering companies. He has been based in Asia

Pacific for almost a decade and can be found via his profile at vand.hk.

Hi, Mark. Welcome to Software Engineering Daily.

Hey, thanks for having me.

Yeah, so great to have you here today, Mark. You are at the company Bishop Fox, which we're going to hear all about and understand about

what is called the Cosmos platform

and really just what Bishop Fox does in general.

I think one of the first things would be really just interesting to hear about.

Obviously, some details I don't think you're able to go into,

but just your background is very interesting and sort of how you then ended up at Bishop Fox.

So maybe if you just sort of introduce yourself a little bit in terms of

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