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The Dr. Hyman Show

The Future of Medicine Is Energy: Dr. Martin Picard Explains

The Dr. Hyman Show

Dr. Mark Hyman

Health & Fitness, Nutrition, Medicine

4.68.7K Ratings

🗓️ 19 November 2025

⏱️ 111 minutes

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Summary

I’ve seen so many patients struggle with fatigue, brain fog, and burnout, and this conversation gave me a new way of thinking about why that happens and how to approach it. On this episode of The Dr. Hyman Show, I’m joined by Dr. Martin Picard, a Columbia scientist studying how energy flows through the body, and what that flow means for how we think, feel, and age. We touch on a simple idea that could reframe the way you understand your own energy, and how your daily choices influence it over time. Catch the full conversation on YouTube or listen wherever you get your podcasts. We uncover: • Why your energy can feel “off” even when labs look normal • What mitochondria communicate beyond just ATP production • How stress, recovery, and sleep shift your cellular energy capacity • Why individuality matters more than group averages in real life health outcomes • The simple daily choices that build or drain metabolic resilience over time At the end of the day, energy is the foundation of how we show up in our lives, and we can influence it more than we think. Resources on the blog: • Phenomics and the Energy Resistance Principle  View Show Notes From This Episode Get Free Weekly Health Tips from Dr. Hyman https://drhyman.com/pages/picks?utm_campaign=shownotes&utm_medium=banner&utm_source=podcast Sign Up for Dr. Hyman’s Weekly Longevity Journal https://drhyman.com/pages/longevity?utm_campaign=shownotes&utm_medium=banner&utm_source=podcast Join the 10-Day Detox to Reset Your Health https://drhyman.com/pages/10-day-detox Join the Hyman Hive for Expert Support and Real Results https://drhyman.com/pages/hyman-hive This episode is brought to you by Seed, Pique, Function Health, Paleovalley, PerfectAmino and Big Bold Health. Visit seed.com/hyman and use code 20HYMAN for 20% off your first month of Seed's DS-01® Daily Synbiotic. Receive 20% off FOR LIFE + a free Starter Kit with a rechargeable frother and glass beaker at Piquelife com/Hyman. Join today at FunctionHealth.com/Mark and use code HYMAN100 to get $100 toward your membership. Get nutrient-dense, whole foods. Head to paleovalley.com/hyman for 15% off your first purchase. Go to bodyhealth.com and use code HYMAN20 for 20% off your first order.Get 20% off HTB Immune Energy Chews at bigboldhealth.com and use code DRMARK20.

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0:00.0

Energy has been the missing dimension of medicine.

0:02.5

If your mitochondria stop working, you're dead in seconds.

0:04.8

Dr. Martin Picard is a professor of behavioral medicine at Columbia University,

0:08.4

and he directs the mitochondrial psychobiology group, how your psychology affects your biology,

0:12.5

where he explores how our minds and our mitochondria connect.

0:15.3

As the chair of energy and health at Columbia Aging Center,

0:17.9

he leads NIH-funded studies, making stress, energy, and healing

0:21.4

and work the scientists around the world to transform our understanding of health.

0:25.6

What are the mitochondria and how we should be thinking about them from the perspective of how

0:29.4

they're integral to our entire communication network and our energy network that runs our body?

0:34.0

The potential energy inside your body, it's equivalent to a lightning ball.

0:37.5

And somehow we don't combust and we don't burst into flames. If you mess up with the energy, like just a little bit, you can actually alter the human experience. You can alter your state of mind. You're saying we shouldn't be focusing so much disease. We should be focusing on what creating health. You look at which diseases are there evidence for that mitochondria are impaired in some way. And it turns out every disease, the reason stress is bad for us, the reason stress makes us tired and ends up damaging our organs and ends up aging us faster, is because it steals energy from the things that keep us healthy. So people listening, they're all, okay, I have some of these conditions. Where do I start? I'd start by saying you're not broken and there are no

1:11.3

parts, I think, to be fixed or surgically removed or transplanted. There are things that we know

1:16.2

can unleash the healing potential of the body. Wow, what a conversation. You've heard me say

1:26.9

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1:30.4

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1:34.1

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1:39.1

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1:42.7

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1:46.1

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1:50.1

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