Hello everyone welcome back to our final for now at least episode with

Nicole Burke of Rooted Garden and Gardenary and the upcoming author of Kitchen Garden Revival and the developer of the

Garden Coach Certification.

The courses include Herb Garden Guide, Solid School, and Kitchen Garden Academy.

And I promise there's nothing else at least and and friend and a

BFF for life for life so we've talked a lot with Nicole this week it's been an

amazing conversation but all sorts of different things, both very practical gardening tips, as well as some of the more business sides of gardening. And today we're going to look towards the future. And we did tease, I think, a little bit of this,

Nicole, where you were talking about yesterday

how if gardening is going to become part of the culture again,

there needs to be a culture of viable career paths in it and so I really like that.

I'm curious though what your thoughts are, let's say we zoom forward to 2030,

what does it look like to you?

Yeah, so I like to compare this to yoga pants.

So about 10 years ago, I started seeing people wearing yoga pants like out in public. Now you're a guy so I mean I guess guys

were yoga pants. Honestly in San Diego it's a thing it's definitely a thing. Okay so I don't know about you but like when I first

started seeing people and public wearing

yoga pants I was like what like really we're doing this like this is like it's like all

out there you know what I'm saying yeah and so I was like no no, I'm not, no, no, I can, and then, okay, so now it's 2020 and every single human being has, like my kids have yoga pants, right? Like babies have yoga pants. Like babies have yoga pants.

Like and yoga is just a thing now.

Like it's just everyone, if you don't do yoga,

you pretend like you do yoga.

Exactly, you dress, you dress the part. Right, but if you were to back up like a decade and definitely two decades ago,

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