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This is a show where we get into all things real estate

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This is a place where we'll get into the trends, the how-toes, and the nuts and bolts of real estate investing.

I'm your host, Ken McElroy.

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topics that we cover here, please go to www.com.com slash news. Let's dive into this episode.

Hey, everybody. It's Ken McElroy and I got my good buddy here, Jason Hartman. Hey, Jason. How you doing?

Hey, good, Ken. It's good to see you again.

Let's see. I know, I know a lot of people may or may not know, but so you've done thousands and

thousands of real estate transactions in 11 states, 17 cities. You've been educating people for

years and years and years. Congratulations on all your success.

And I know you've been on the show before. We did one on the, you know, investing during a

pandemic. And that thing has just done really, really well that video. And so I wanted to,

what I wanted to do was talk about, you know, that was that was a while ago. Let's talk about,

you know, what we're kind of a while ago. Let's talk about, you know,

what we're kind of seeing now. So if you want to start, let's talk about now the year's over.

It's 2021. And obviously, 2020 was a very, very interesting year. But what's interesting to me is

housing prices are defying the odds.

Like, and you kind of called this.

As you know, I kind of called a real estate crash.

We can have an argument, Ken, because most people say that you're bearish and I'm bullish.

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