The Future of Europe

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🗓️ 13 July 2018

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

As President Trump meets with other western leaders in Europe, the spirit of democratic cooperation we’re used to in NATO summits is gone. But it’s not just Trump. Populist movements around Europe are agitating against the cooperation that has bound the continent since World War II. Where is the West headed? Is this a short-term fever brought on by unique stresses? Or does it herald a re-fracturing of the continent? Are the ‘member states’ of Europe becoming ‘nation states’ again? Links - “Angela Merkel, Escape Artist” (Yasmeen Serhan, July 3, 2018) - “What If Russia Invaded the Baltics—and Donald Trump Was President?” (Uri Friedman, July 27, 2016) - “England’s Unfamiliar Emotion: Hope” (Sophie Gilbert, July 10, 2018) - “Why Didn't Boris Johnson Get Fired Before He Quit?” (Yasmeen Serhan, July 9, 2018) - “The End of the Brexit Illusion” (David Frum, July 9, 2018) - “Trump’s Plan to End Europe” (David Frum, May 2017 Issue) - Educated (Tara Westover, 2018) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	The leaders of Western European nations are dealing with a lot.
0:08.0	Perusing political fights over how to approach migrants and refugees,
0:12.0	negotiations over what Brexit means, a wave of
0:15.5	populist movement sewing discord across the continent, and then there's Donald Trump.
0:21.2	This week all the heads of NATO gathered in Brussels for their
0:24.2	semi-annual summit. The US President's commitment to arguably the most successful
0:29.2	military alliance in history is, shall we say, tenuous. Are the biggest threats to NATO coming from
0:35.8	inside Europe or from Europe's best ally? This is Radio Atlantic.
0:59.2	With me in studio here in DC is my esteemed co-host Jeffrey Goldberg. Jeff hello.
1:04.3	Hi Matt and Jeff is the editor-in-chief of the Atlanta.
1:08.0	Don't you forget it.
1:09.0	My boss. With us here in DC is our colleague Kathy Gilsonen.
1:15.0	Hi Matt. Runs international coverage for the Atlantic.
1:18.1	Hello Kathy.
1:19.1	Hi. And calling in from California, although she is ordinarily based in our London Bureau, is our colleague
1:26.0	Yasmin Surin. Hello Yasmin.
1:28.6	Hello from this side of the pond, your side of the pond.
1:32.3	I just wanted to warn you all that unfortunately I do have a
1:35.0	guest with me, his name is Cosmo, he is a dog, and despite my best efforts to quiet my
1:41.4	surroundings he's the one factor I cannot control
1:44.0	so if you do hear barking whining of any of the kind I'm so sorry he just has a
1:48.6	lot to say listen the Atlantic has long needed a canine correspondent, so we welcome Cosmos
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