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🗓️ 2 January 2024
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0:00.0 | Happy New Year with pod listeners. |
0:02.0 | As we wrap up the re-release of our Future Of series, |
0:05.0 | we're sharing our conversation with Jonah Goldman on the future of energy. |
0:08.0 | This episode was first released in March 2022. |
0:11.0 | Thanks for listening. |
0:13.0 | If you're an innovator in 2022 and you're looking at |
0:20.0 | if you're an innovator in 2022 and you're looking at climate I mean there is more capital |
0:26.0 | available for you than you could ever have imagined in a different situation. |
0:32.0 | Hello welcome to why is this happening with me your host Chris Hayes. |
0:37.0 | Well you know an interesting thing happens when you record a special series and you have to do it ahead of time, |
0:48.0 | which is that a lot can change in the world between when you record it and when you release it. |
0:55.2 | This conversation today we recorded prior to the Russian invasion of Ukraine and it's a conversation focusing on energy and there's a lot of stuff in there |
1:06.2 | I think all of it's still relevant but the context in which you might hear it or interpret it is in some ways going to be necessarily a little different after what has happened |
1:17.8 | with the Russian invasion of Ukraine particularly around the prevalence of hydrocarbons |
1:26.7 | their connection to Europe, Russia's power, and also nuclear power, which has been at the center of the story. We touch on it in this |
1:31.5 | conversation. You've got civilian nuclear power in the form of |
1:34.7 | nuclear power plants in Ukraine which have been fired upon, attacked, or occupied by |
1:39.4 | Russian forces. There's safety concerns there. There's also of course nuclear weapons which have been you know hinted at or |
1:45.8 | pointed to by the Putin regime so we figured it was worth keeping in all the |
1:50.6 | discussion on nuclear because it's still relevant even though I think |
1:54.0 | there's ways in which the context of it or the concerns around safety might be |
1:57.9 | heightened now in light of the recent developments. |
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