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Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

The Future of Energy with Jonah Goldman (2022)

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

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4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 2 January 2024

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Happy New Year! As our team returns from break, we're re-sharing another part of our "Future of" miniseries that originally aired in March 2022. From the original description: Time is running out to reverse the damage done by climate change, according to a report released by the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in February 2022. Preventing further destruction will be the biggest undertaking in the history of human civilization. Can it be done? Jonah Goldman joined Gates Ventures, Bill Gates’s private office, in September 2014, where he is responsible for the organization’s relationships with policymakers around the world. In 2020, he helped Bill establish Breakthrough Energy (BE). BE is a network of entities and initiatives, including investment funds, nonprofit and philanthropic programs, and policy efforts linked by a common commitment to scale the technologies we need to achieve a path to net zero emissions by 2050. Goldman joins to provide a gut check on where we stand on the timeline for change as it relates to the future of energy.

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0:00.0

Happy New Year with pod listeners.

0:02.0

As we wrap up the re-release of our Future Of series,

0:05.0

we're sharing our conversation with Jonah Goldman on the future of energy.

0:08.0

This episode was first released in March 2022.

0:11.0

Thanks for listening.

0:13.0

If you're an innovator in 2022 and you're looking at

0:20.0

if you're an innovator in 2022 and you're looking at climate I mean there is more capital

0:26.0

available for you than you could ever have imagined in a different situation.

0:32.0

Hello welcome to why is this happening with me your host Chris Hayes.

0:37.0

Well you know an interesting thing happens when you record a special series and you have to do it ahead of time,

0:48.0

which is that a lot can change in the world between when you record it and when you release it.

0:55.2

This conversation today we recorded prior to the Russian invasion of Ukraine and it's a conversation focusing on energy and there's a lot of stuff in there

1:06.2

I think all of it's still relevant but the context in which you might hear it or interpret it is in some ways going to be necessarily a little different after what has happened

1:17.8

with the Russian invasion of Ukraine particularly around the prevalence of hydrocarbons

1:26.7

their connection to Europe, Russia's power, and also nuclear power, which has been at the center of the story. We touch on it in this

1:31.5

conversation. You've got civilian nuclear power in the form of

1:34.7

nuclear power plants in Ukraine which have been fired upon, attacked, or occupied by

1:39.4

Russian forces. There's safety concerns there. There's also of course nuclear weapons which have been you know hinted at or

1:45.8

pointed to by the Putin regime so we figured it was worth keeping in all the

1:50.6

discussion on nuclear because it's still relevant even though I think

1:54.0

there's ways in which the context of it or the concerns around safety might be

1:57.9

heightened now in light of the recent developments.

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