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Hey, this is Anna Palmer from The Daily Punch with our fourth installment of our special edition

podcast, The Future of Cybersecurity. I'm going to be joined, as always, by our senior

congressional reporter Andrew Desidero, who's been doing this project for us. As you know,

if you've listened to the earlier editions, we have spent the month of

October focused on the future of cybersecurity and artificial intelligence, looking at it

from the state of play, the legislative aspects, as well as most recently the players, who

the officials are, who are actually looking to enact legislation.

And we're rounding out the series with something we're calling the megaphone, looking at how different organizations, groups are trying to amplify the conversation

around cybersecurity in Washington and beyond.

As always, we want to thank Google for their partnership on this entire

project. With that, let's get started. Hey, Andrew, good to see you. Hey, Anna. Thanks for having me.

All right. So, as I mentioned, the megaphone, right? There's always the kind of the behind-the-scenes

game that we cover every day in and out, but there's also that kind of public aspect as well. And one of the big

things here in Washington I've spent much of my career focused on was lobbying how different

companies or industries try to influence what's happening here in the Capitol and at the White

House. What have you seen in terms of cybersecurity and the kind of this, the lobbying scene in general?

Well, it's definitely picked up the pace over the years. Just to give you a statistic that kind

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