Met a ghost of a king on the road when I first fell.

Fire burning to my knees to my knees I fell.

Made a ghost of a king on a row.

Welcome to Sasp.

We're here with a special guest, Mr. Scott Minor, who is the CEO of Realm Makers,

an organization that served Christian authors of fantasy and science fiction

since 2013. Scott is also a musician and actor, and he taught at a classical Christian school

for a good decade as well. So the number of overlap with the things we do here, and he's also been

very into theater, specifically directing children's theater and getting children

to say all the words of Shakespeare in the original language.

And the reason we're having Scott on is because Nate is heading off to speak at the Realm

Maker's conference here this month. And so we thought we'd have Scott on to discuss.

We got a plug. We got a plug. Plug. Plug. Yeah. So anybody within driving distance or flying distance

of Michigan should be there. Yeah, Scott. So do you do you want to kind of give us a quick pitch for

what the Realm Makers conference is? And then we can head into why specifically speculative fiction yeah what is this thing that you do scott

i don't even know we're just being obedient no thank you brian thank you uh Nate for having me

I'm really honored to be on your podcast I don't know if you I don't see too many guests on Sass. Right? I, Doug 10

Maple and your daughters, when Brian's not around, you have your daughters on. Yeah. Yeah, so you're

one. You're very special. Yeah, they're Mount Rushmore. The Mount Rushmore of Sass.

Cool. Well, I mean, Realmakers isers was started by my wife. Becky, she started

writing fantasy because that's what we enjoyed.

We were in college growing up.

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