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The Michael Shermer Show

The Future of Brain Implants: Restoring Speech, Regaining Mobility, Treating Pain

The Michael Shermer Show

Michael Shermer

Natural Sciences, Science

4.3 • 1K Ratings

🗓️ 23 December 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Brain-computer interfaces are moving out of the lab and into real medical use.

In this episode of The Michael Shermer Show, Michael Shermer talks with Dr. Matt Angle, founder and CEO of Paradromics, a neurotechnology company developing one of the most advanced high-data-rate brain implants in the world, similar to Neuralink. These devices record activity from individual neurons, making it possible to restore speech in people with paralysis, reconnect the brain to external devices, and potentially treat chronic pain and neurological disorders with far greater precision than existing approaches.

Angle explains why progress in neuroscience has been limited not by biology, but by data—how much information we can actually read from the brain, and how fast. He describes how patients who can no longer speak may soon communicate fluently using only brain signals, why invasive implants can sometimes be safer than long-term drug treatments, and what it takes to bring a brain implant through FDA approval and into the clinic.

The conversation also touches on the larger questions raised by this technology, including autonomy, consciousness, and what happens when the boundary between brain and machine begins to blur.

Matt Angle is the Founder and CEO of Paradromics, a neurotechnology leader developing the world's most advanced and clinically viable brain-computer interface (BCI) platform—bridging human thought and digital capability. Paradromics' BCI platform records brain activity with unmatched precision, capturing data at the level of individual neurons. This advanced technology enables the decoding of vast amounts of brain data, opening the door to next-generation treatments for paralysis, chronic pain, addiction, mental health conditions, and more. With the power of AI, this platform has the potential to radically shift how healthcare providers approach some of the most challenging medical conditions.

Angle earned his PhD in Neuroscience from the University of Heidelberg, followed by postdoctoral research at Stanford University. Paradromics engineered its first clinical product, the Connexus® BCI, received two FDA Breakthrough Device Designations, and performed the first-in-human neural recording in May 2025. The company is now preparing to launch a clinical trial in early 2026, pending regulatory approval.

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0:00.0

We had some interns that played Nintendo through a sheep's brain.

0:02.7

We did a few tests where we passed language, we passed natural language and text through

0:06.6

a sheep's brain to sort of benchmark how quickly we could send communication through them.

0:10.7

And more rigorously, we did a test of the information transfer rate of the system

0:15.4

and determined that one of our cortical modules can transfer 200 bits per second,

0:20.7

which is the highest data rate brain

0:22.6

computer interface in the world, and it happens to be about 20 times faster than Mirralink.

0:26.6

We and others will develop visual prostheses for people who are blind to restore vision.

0:31.4

When vision restoration reaches 2020 vision, then a BCI provided image will be indistinguishable from one that was delivered by the

0:39.2

eye. And at that point, you have the ultimate ARVR experience. People often have a, their intuition

0:44.8

for what is invasive and what is not invasive in medicine can be wrong. So for instance, getting a

0:49.8

brain implant sounds very scary, but taking a pill doesn't. But I'll tell you that, like, you know,

0:54.7

if you have two options and one of them is being on like strong opiates for a long time,

0:59.4

and the other one is getting like a deep brain stimulator, I think that empirically, strong

1:04.3

opiates are more invasive.

1:10.5

All right. hey, everybody.

1:11.9

It's Michael Schumer.

1:12.7

It's time for another episode of the Michael Schumer show.

1:14.6

I have a very special guest and topic today, brain computer interface.

1:20.0

Oh, my God.

1:21.3

My guest is Dr. Matt Engel.

1:23.2

He's the founder and CEO of Parodromics, a neurotechnology leader, developing the world's most advanced and clinically viable brain computer interface that has an acronym BCI platform, bridging human thought and digital capability.

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