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1 big thing

The future of American terror

1 big thing

Axios

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4.02K Ratings

🗓️ 9 October 2020

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

Yesterday, the FBI announced terrorism charges against an anti-government militia group for plotting to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer. Now, University of Michigan professor Alexandra Minna Stern is saying that politically motivated violence may only get worse. Plus, the debate around whether another presidential debate will or won't happen. And, sports betting is one industry thriving during the pandemic. Guests: Axios' Hans Nichols, Kendall Baker and University of Michigan professor Alexandra Minna Stern. Credits: "Axios Today" is produced in partnership with Pushkin Industries. The team includes Niala Boodhoo, Carol Wu, Cara Shillenn, Nuria Marquez Martinez, Dan Bobkoff, Sara Kehaulani Goo, Alex Sugiura and Naomi Shavin. Music is composed by Evan Viola. You can reach us at podcasts@axios.com. Go deeper: Militia plotted attacks on police, Michigan governor Joe Biden to attend town hall event after Trump pulls out of second debate Barstool jumps into sports betting Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Good morning. Welcome to Axios today. It's Friday, October 9th. I'm Naila Boodoo.

0:08.6

Here's how we're making you smarter today. What the presidential campaigns are thinking about the next debate,

0:14.4

plus a new record for sports betting. But first, a plan to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen

0:21.1

Whitmer could be an early warning of future violence.

0:25.1

That's today's one big thing.

0:29.1

Yesterday six men were charged in a domestic terrorism plot targeting Governor Whitmer.

0:34.4

When I first heard the news, I thought of a professor I'd met earlier this year when I was doing

0:37.9

a fellowship at the University of Michigan.

0:40.0

I said last year and people didn't always believe me it's going to get worse before it gets better.

0:46.3

Alexandra Minist-

0:50.5

Stern studies white nationalists and white supremacist groups, including the proud boys.

0:51.8

I could have never imagined that there would have been actually a plot to kidnap the governor

0:56.2

of my state, but I could imagine that militias would take to the streets and that they would continue to organize and they continue to be emboldened by President

1:09.6

Trump and his tweets and his callouts.

1:12.2

Why was the governor specifically targeted here?

1:16.0

One of the things they say in the criminal complaint

1:18.0

is that this woman has too much power.

1:20.0

They particularly don't like a Democratic woman who speaks out and has spoken out against Trump.

1:27.0

When our leaders meet with, encourage, or fraternize with domestic terrorists, they legitimize their actions and they are

1:36.6

complicit.

1:38.7

When they stoke and contribute to hate speech, they are complicit.

1:43.4

The protests against Governor Whitmer's COVID public health measures,

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