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The Vergecast

The future of AI might look a lot like Twitter

The Vergecast

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News, Tech News, Technology

4.44.1K Ratings

🗓️ 29 September 2024

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Michael Sayman, the creator of a viral new app called SocialAI, joins the show to discuss why he built a social network where you're the only human around. He tells us how he thinks about AI interfaces, what's next for ChatGPT and other chatbots, and why posting to a language model might be better than posting on a social network. Further reading: SocialAI Michael Sayman on LinkedIn SocialAI: we tried the Twitter clone where no other humans are allowed From TechCrunch: Friendly Apps raises $3 million, pre-product, for apps that improve people’s well-being From Wired: I Stared Into the AI Void With the SocialAI App From New York Magazine: Does Anyone Need an AI Social Network? From Ars Technica: “Dead Internet theory” comes to life with new AI-powered social media app Email us at [email protected] or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Virgcast, the flagship podcast of Bot Farms.

0:06.5

I'm your friend David Pierce and this is the second episode in our miniseries

0:10.3

all about AI in the real world. AI is so abstract and it's a term that we now

0:17.0

use in so many ways that honestly it can feel sort of meaningless. So we've been on a

0:22.3

quest to find actual examples of actual

0:25.0

AI showing up and being useful or at the very least interesting in our actual lives.

0:31.0

For this episode, the last one in our little series for now, I have a

0:35.5

feeling we'll come back to this subject, but last one for now. I'm talking to

0:39.2

Michael Salmon, who recently launched an app called Social AI that has become kind of a viral phenomenon on the internet.

0:46.5

We'll get into what it is and how it works in pretty serious detail here, but basically

0:51.6

I'd explain Social AI this way. Imagine a social network,

0:55.2

Twitter or threads or whatever, but every user other than you, every single one other than

1:00.8

you is a bot. Does that sound interesting? Pointless, terrible,

1:06.0

dystopian, amazing? Maybe all of those things? I wasn't sure where I fell on that

1:12.1

line when I started talking to Michael, but we ended up having, frankly, one of the most fun conversations I've had in a while, all about how AI works and how we're actually supposed to use it.

1:25.0

spoiler alert, he thinks about this less as a network and more as an interface,

1:30.0

and I find that fascinating.

1:32.0

We happen to agree, actually Michael and I,

1:35.0

that a chatbot cannot possibly be the future of

1:38.0

everything in technology.

1:40.0

And Michael has some big ideas about what else we might be able to do.

1:44.0

All that is coming up in just a second, but first, I have to tell my bots what's going on.

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