Support for this show comes from OnePassword. If you're an IT or security pro, managing devices,

identities, and applications can feel overwhelming and risky. Trellica by OnePassword helps

conquer SaaS sprawl and Shadow IT by discovering every app your team uses, managed or not. Take the first step to better security

for your team. Learn more at onepassword.com slash podcast offer. That's onepassword.com

slash podcast offer, all lowercase. Support for this show comes from icy hot.

You know those moments when you've already given it your all and you're still ready to come back for more.

But the only thing standing in your way is pain.

Well, you don't need to let achy joints and muscles hold you back anymore.

With Icey Hot original no mess, you can experience fast-acting pain relief and come back you back anymore. With icy hot original no mess, you can experience

fast-acting pain relief and come back strong. Ice works fast and heat makes it last. You're so

back with icy hot. Buy Icey Hot Original No Mess Now. Welcome back everybody. We are back together in New York with another episode of a touch more.

We took in game one of the Aces Liberty, first game of the semi. So we'll talk about that. Plus, we spent some time at the University of Portland for a very special Hall of Fame induction. Go pilots.

I saw Mr. Pilot. You did. It's a pretty cool mascot.

It's kind of cool. Yeah, his beard is thick. Yeah. And we also have the responses to are you a Megan or Are You a Sue? The White House Edition. And we're going to discuss all of this with all of y'all today.

We want to begin with the toxic and racist behavior that has been taking over some of the conversation around the WMBA this year.

You know, honestly, Sue, like part of the reason we have this podcast and are spending our time doing this is to bring

the player's perspective and to bring all the experience and expertise and things that we've

lived through over the years in our respective sports to bring how it is for us and what we think about it.

And I feel like we are, I'm like, are we made for this moment?

Obviously, you playing in the W for so, so long in us both, you know, engaging in topics around equality really just in general for for so long. And

when you're a female athlete, you literally have to. It's not something that we get to choose

to do or not do. And so much of this conversation around the W and what's happened and we're going to get into it has been about like who and what players are responsible and why. But I think that that is coming at it from the wrong perspective.

...