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The Peter McCormack Show

The FTX Contagion with Jesse Powell - WBD583

The Peter McCormack Show

Peter McCormack

Power, Politics, Government, Markets, News, Society & Culture, Technology, Society, Inflation, Finance, Bitcoin, Economics, Money

4.72.8K Ratings

🗓️ 21 November 2022

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

Jesse Powell is the co-founder and Chairman of Kraken. In this interview, we discuss the rising anger over the FTX collapse, parallels with Mt. Gox, FTX's exploitation of regulatory arbitrage, odd mainstream media reactions, proof of reserves and the future of custodial services.

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FTX has caused untold damage. There could be over 1 million creditors, from large institutions to small retail investors. There are going to be numerous heartbreaking stories of people getting rekt. But, the most significant damage caused by this criminality could be ahead of us. There is a significant risk that a misreading of the causes of this crisis will lead to regulatory damage removing access to Satoshi's innovation for future generations.

There are many within the industry who were deeply sceptical of FTX and Sam-Bankman-Fried well before the event of the past few weeks played out. The pace of growth, the scale of revenue, and the huge expenditure. To those in the know, none of it made sense unless FTX was involved in nefarious activities. And yet, SBF was rubbing shoulders with DC politicians whilst shaping the laws to be applied to the industry.

In short order, the whole facade has come crumbling down. Stories of drug taking, polyamory, and excess within the criminal empire have emerged, confessions have been made that the effective altruism promotion was a sham, and then SBF engaged in a bizarre media campaign via Twitter. FTX's new CEO brought in to organise its bankruptcy process stated in his 40 years of restructuring companies (including Enron) he's never seen anything as bad as this.

So, in the face of this obvious narcissistic and incompetent criminality, why have there been a number of puff pieces in the media? Why did DC take the warnings that were made seriously? And how is it justified for politicians to threaten a sweeping global legal framework for Bitcoin and crypto? Strange things are happening, and forces are being aligned against all of us. And yet, we know the community is resilient. This could take years to play out.


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0:00.0

I think we can't lose sight of like what we're really fighting for here which is like all of those people to be included in the financial system

0:08.0

you know financial privacy the separation of money and state you know these things are way bigger than any

0:13.5

centralized exchange. Hello there from Vegas how are you all? Did you have a good

0:17.5

weekend? I'm just about to leave Vegas. I'm just about to go and catch my flight

0:21.9

back to the UK.

0:23.3

I've been away for about two weeks, but I feel like I've done so much,

0:25.6

feels like forever.

0:26.4

I've been to San Diego, I've been to LA

0:28.4

for the Pacific Bitcoin Conference, came to Vegas,

0:31.1

and went over to Texas, back in Vegas, but now I'm about to head home to the great town of Bedford go back and see my football team and catch up with my family.

0:39.0

Anyway, welcome to the What Bitcoin did podcast which is brought to you by Gemini the only place I'm using for buying

0:44.4

Bitcoin I'm your host Peter McCormack and today I've got Jesse Power back on the show we're going to be talking about

0:50.0

FTX and everything that happened there. Now if you don't know Jesse

0:53.5

Jesse runs Krakhan and he was very much involved when Mount Gots crashed. He went out to

0:58.9

Japan and tried to help recover the funds and sort the situation out.

1:02.9

So Jesse probably has a little bit of PTSD in relation to exchanges crashing.

1:07.3

He covered the whole Quadrigga thing when that happened recently as well.

1:10.5

Now, Jesse, as somebody who runs an exchange, has seen these exchanges blowing up was pretty angry about everything that happened.

1:17.0

And if you go on to Twitter, I think we're going to put it in the show notes, but if you're on to Twitter, he wrote a whole thread about it, why he was so angry about everything that happened.

1:24.4

And so I wanted to get him back on the show,

1:26.0

I want to talk to him about this,

1:27.4

talk about his experience,

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