I'm not sure Jesus was an extrovert. I think Jesus just loved people with everything that he had

But I don't think he walked into any room and said where's the party?

You know but I think he saw people that weren't normally seen. Welcome to Family Life Today where we want to help you pursue the relationships that matter most.

I'm Shelby Abbott and your hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson.

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All right, so I just thought of this quote I used years ago in a sermon. I'm going to try and get it right because I know it rhymes. It was something like to dwell above with Saints we love that would be glory. To live below with Saints We Know that's another story

And obviously it's getting that friendship and connection and how awesome it is when you think about it but when you

live it in real life it's hard.

It can be messy and tricky and beautiful and ugly all of them at the same time.

So we need help and we've got them at the same time.

So we need help and we've got help in the studio.

Are you excited?

I am.

Her name is Amber Lee Nise.

She can hardly keep herself quiet over there.

She's like, I gotta jump in.

I know. You can jump in now. Give me the ball.

Give me the ball. Say whatever you want to say but I mean you have written a book and you've

studied this. This is more than a book. It's a passion. Yeah this is what you do with

friendships. So talk about why. First of all, tell our

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