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The Dad Edge Podcast

The Friendship Gap: Can a Dad & Son Be Friends?

The Dad Edge Podcast

Larry Hagner

Project, Self-improvement, Stevenson, Podcast, Edge, Education, Kids, Shawn, Family, Kids & Family, Fathers, Fatherhood, Community, Advice, Dad, Good, Health & Fitness, Children

4.8 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 16 July 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

 

Have you ever asked yourself?

  • Do I give my children room to make decisions and mistakes, or do I try to control outcomes too tightly?
  • How often am I sitting down with my kids and really listening to their perspective instead of just telling them what to do?
  • Am I open about my struggles as a parent and willing to admit when I don’t have all the answers?

Navigating the relationship between father and son is never straightforward, especially as your child grows into a young adult. On this episode of The Dad Edge Podcast, Larry Hagner welcomes his son Ethan for a candid discussion about the so-called "friendship gap"—that elusive space between being too much of a friend and not enough of a parent.

Larry and Ethan get real about their own family dynamics, sharing personal stories of where things clicked—and where they missed the mark. From lecture-based parenting in elementary school to establishing new routines as Ethan enters adulthood, they explore the effects of too much leniency or authority, and the importance of clear communication, shared expectations, and accountability.

Whether you’re raising toddlers or about to launch your kids into the world, this episode is packed with relatable, actionable insights on fostering a deeper father-child bond—while still preparing your kids for the real world. Stick around for honest reflections, a few laughs, and tips that will help any dad walk the fine line between being a guide, a leader… and a friend.

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In this vital conversation, we dig into:

  1. Balance Structure and Connection: Avoid leaning too hard into “just being friends” or being purely authoritarian. Kids crave both boundaries and genuine connection.
  2. Use Storytelling and Curiosity: When tough conversations arise, share your personal stories and ask thoughtful questions to guide your child’s own critical thinking—instead of falling into lecture mode.
  3. Create a Supportive Environment: Physical order (like a clean room or set routines) supports mental clarity and well-being; maintain structure even during transitions to help kids thrive.

This episode is packed with relatable, actionable insights on fostering a deeper father-child bond—while still preparing your kids for the real world.

Here's what research and observation highlight about family emotional connection:

  • children who reported having both warmth and structure from their fathers had a 30% higher chance of reporting positive life satisfaction and emotional regulation in adulthood compared to those who experienced only discipline or only friendship.
  • Studies show that 67% of adolescents report they “completely tune out” or “stop listening” during long lectures from parents, favoring concise, two-way conversations instead.
  • Studies show that 70% of young adults feel unprepared for the practical aspects of adulthood, while 59% of parents report feeling “uncertain” about how to best guide their children through these years

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Dad Edge podcast. The Dad Edge movement creates leaders of men,

0:07.7

leaders of families, and leaders of communities. We will not only impact this generation of

0:12.9

fathers, but the next generation as well. The kids we are raising will have better chances and

0:18.4

odds stacked in their favor because of the amazing example

0:21.2

that their fathers emulated for them. We are here to change the world. We are here to change

0:27.5

relationships. We are here to positively disrupt this generation of fathers so no man goes to their

0:33.5

grave with regret. We disrupt the drift of busyness and replace it with razor-focused

0:39.1

intention, passion,

0:41.4

purpose, and direction.

0:43.7

We are the Dad Edge,

0:45.8

and we're here to change the game.

0:47.8

We're here to change the game. What's up, Ethan, how you doing, brother?

1:03.6

What's up?

1:04.2

I'm doing great, actually.

1:05.6

How about you?

1:06.2

I'm doing good, man.

1:07.2

Up and early.

1:08.6

Like, I don't know, what time did you go to bed last night?

1:11.1

Man, probably a little bit after midnight.

1:14.8

I had Megan staying over for a little bit.

1:18.9

Watch some fireworks last night in our neighborhood.

1:21.5

You remember that?

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