4.9 • 801 Ratings
🗓️ 5 July 2025
⏱️ 56 minutes
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In this conversation, Joel Webbon and Dr. Stephen Wolfe specifically define Christian Nationalism, and reveal the intersection of theology and political philosophy, as well as the historical context provided by Aristotle.
They also discuss the criticisms faced by proponents of Christian Nationalism, particularly regarding the claim that “Christian Nationalism lacks a sufficient use of Scripture and theological grounding.”
Furthermore, Joel and Stephen explore the potentially negative effects of postmillennialism and theonomy on the Christian Nationalist movement.
Lastly, the conversation also delves into the roles that both grace and nature play in shaping societal structures, and the significance of a Christian family in a broader cultural context.
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0:21.5 | We need this content for the glory of God to reach more people's ears. All right, here we are Stephen Wolfe. |
0:48.3 | Thanks for coming on the show. |
0:50.3 | Yeah, thanks for having me. |
0:51.3 | You're welcome. |
0:52.3 | So we are going to be doing a 10-part series, |
0:55.6 | all on the topic of Christian nationalism. And what we want to do from the very outset is actually |
1:00.9 | have Stephen Define Christian Nationalism. And answer, really, I would argue, and I think you would |
1:07.2 | make the same argument, 90% of your opponent's objections to your book |
1:11.8 | come from the introduction. And I think it's not because the introduction is uniquely flawed, |
1:17.6 | but because I think a lot of your opponents didn't get past the introduction and are really |
1:24.6 | silly in a lot of their objections. So like, you know, biblicalism is a rampant |
1:30.0 | plague on evangelicals, especially in the Baptist world, which I'm a part of. And so for a lot of guys, |
1:36.3 | they read the one line where you said, I'm not a theologian. And I've had to correct so many guys |
1:40.9 | and say, when Stephen Wolfe says he's not a theologian, you need to understand |
1:44.2 | that those of you who are objecting, Simon Wolf would also say that you are not a theologian. |
1:49.3 | He means, I do not have a Ph.D. in theology. He doesn't mean I haven't read the Bible and I don't |
1:54.5 | have theological ideas or that I don't know basic theology or the Westminster Confession of Faith. Everybody, and part of this is Sproles' fault, who I love, but everyone's a theologian. |
2:05.2 | I know what he means, but let's just be honest and say 99% of these theologians that everyone |
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