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Hello, you've downloaded a podcast of BBC Radio Falls The Food Program.

I'm Dan Saladino. Welcome to our world. From cooking to culture,

politics to pleasure. We hope you enjoy this is a door I've wanted to knock on for years.

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Come in.

Hello Ivan.

How are you?

I'm very well. I'm very hot. You will be surely. The Ivan is historian, Ivan Day, and his home, a farmhouse in Cumbria, is a living museum dedicated to British food history filled with centuries

of cutlery jelly molds and cookbooks and the heat he referred to is coming from the centerpiece of the kitchen

an impressive glowing fire. On the right side of the chimney breast near the fire we've got

this old 17th century spit. You wind it up.

That's the sound of the early English kitchen.

At the end of a series of chains and gears and wheels, meat is roasting inside a long rotating metal contraption.

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