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The PedsDocTalk Podcast: Child Health, Development & Parenting—From a Pediatrician Mom

The Follow-Up: Why the School System is Broken

The PedsDocTalk Podcast: Child Health, Development & Parenting—From a Pediatrician Mom

Dr. Mona Amin

Medicine, Kids & Family, Health & Fitness, Parenting

4.91.5K Ratings

🗓️ 13 October 2025

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

The American school system was built to measure performance but at what cost? In this Follow Up episode, Dr. Mona sits down with Lauren Smith, a former educator and nationally certified school psychologist, to unpack how our current approach to education fuels anxiety, burnout, and perfectionism in kids. They dive into the ripple effects of over-testing, constant competition, and the push to perform that begins as early as kindergarten. From standardized tests to college rankings, the conversation explores how a culture obsessed with metrics is stealing creativity, rest, and joy from learning — and what real change could look like. In this episode, we discuss: Why kids are more anxious than ever about school and grades How over-testing and Common Core shape classroom pressure The downstream effects of perfectionism on teens and college students How teacher burnout connects to testing culture What other countries are doing differently — and better Why “slowing down” might be the most radical educational reform Want more? Listen to the full, original episode. Our podcasts are also now on YouTube. If you prefer a video podcast with closed captioning, check us out there and ⁠subscribe to PedsDocTalk⁠. Get trusted pediatric advice, relatable parenting insights, and evidence-based tips delivered straight to your inbox—join thousands of parents who rely on the PDT newsletter to stay informed, supported, and confident. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠! And don’t forget to follow ⁠⁠⁠⁠@pedsdoctalkpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ on Instagram—our new space just for parents looking for real talk and real support. We love the sponsors that make this show possible! You can always find all the special deals and codes for all our current sponsors on the ⁠PedsDocTalk Podcast Sponsorships⁠ page of the website.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey everyone, welcome back to the show. It's Dr. Mona and welcome to this series called The Follow Up,

0:07.4

where we revisit a listener favorite in less time, then it takes your kid to finish their math homework and ask,

0:12.4

do I really need to know this in real life? Recently, I shared a post on my social media channels that

0:17.8

got a lot of love and attention. I said, can we replace the perfect attendance award with a kind kid award already?

0:25.0

Because coming to school sick or skipping a mental health day doesn't deserve applause.

0:29.7

But including others, sharing lunch with someone who's hungry, and standing up to bullying, absolutely does.

0:35.7

And it was a shared post from somebody else.

0:38.2

Now, some people reminded me, Fairpoint, that attendance is tied to school funding for many public schools. But what I can't

0:44.2

shake is this bigger question. What are we teaching kids when we reward showing up over slowing down

0:50.2

when they need it? When we praise compliance, competition, and metrics over creativity,

0:55.4

connection, and rest. If you saw my post today on my social media channel, I talked about

1:00.8

how the American school system is shaping kids to fit into corporate America and what we

1:06.2

lose in the process, creativity, freedom, and appreciation for different kinds of thinking. In this episode,

1:12.8

I sat down with Lauren Smith, a former educator and now a nationally certified school psychologist

1:17.7

to unpack how the American school system is fueling anxiety and burnout in our kids and what real

1:23.5

change could look like. We talk about testing overload, the pressure to perform, and why even

1:28.3

five-year-olds are being measured like many adults. It's a conversation that'll make you rethink

1:33.4

what success in school should mean. And if this episode resonates, make sure you download it,

1:38.9

tag at the Pete Stock Talk podcast and at Pete's Doc Talk and share your thoughts because this is a conversation

1:45.1

every parent needs to be a part of.

1:53.0

One concern I've always had and I don't know if you agree or again, you can disagree with me

1:57.4

completely if you want, is the testing system in American school system.

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