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The PedsDocTalk Podcast: Child Health, Development & Parenting—From a Pediatrician Mom

The Follow-Up: Making Mom Friends is Hard

The PedsDocTalk Podcast: Child Health, Development & Parenting—From a Pediatrician Mom

Dr. Mona Amin

Medicine, Kids & Family, Health & Fitness, Parenting

4.91.5K Ratings

🗓️ 29 September 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

Friendships after motherhood can feel complicated. Before kids, hanging out with friends might have been as easy as grabbing brunch or planning a last-minute outing. But now? Time, energy, and support look very different. In this Follow Up episode, Dr. Mona revisits her conversation with relational health educator Danielle Bayard Jackson, author of Fighting for Our Friendships: The Science and Art of Conflict and Connection in Women’s Relationships. Together, they break down why building and maintaining friendships as a mom feels harder—and how to approach it with more grace and intention. Listen to the full episode. You’ll hear about: The three biggest reasons friendships fade after kids: lack of time, lack of practice, and lack of support Why connection (even small, everyday moments) matters just as much as long-standing friendships How to reframe expectations around old friendships that have shifted Practical steps to nurture the friendships you want, from “autopilot” routines to finding weak ties that still bring value The importance of reciprocity and how to express your needs without guilt Our podcasts are also now on YouTube. If you prefer a video podcast with closed captioning, check us out there and ⁠subscribe to PedsDocTalk⁠. Get trusted pediatric advice, relatable parenting insights, and evidence-based tips delivered straight to your inbox—join thousands of parents who rely on the PDT newsletter to stay informed, supported, and confident. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠! And don’t forget to follow ⁠⁠⁠⁠@pedsdoctalkpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ on Instagram—our new space just for parents looking for real talk and real support. We love the sponsors that make this show possible! You can always find all the special deals and codes for all our current sponsors on the ⁠PedsDocTalk Podcast Sponsorships⁠ page of the website.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome back to the follow-up.

0:03.8

The mini-munday series on the Pete's Doc Talk podcast where we revisit a past favorite

0:08.5

episode of mine in less time than it takes to have small talk at a school event with a mom

0:12.9

you'll probably never see again.

0:14.9

I'm Dr. Mona and before we jump in, remember, the best way to help this show grow is by downloading

0:19.4

the episodes, subscribing,

0:21.3

so you never miss one.

0:22.4

And if you're feeling extra generous, leaving a quick review.

0:25.6

It makes a big difference, and it's what helps me continue to bring you amazing conversations.

0:31.0

Now, let's get into today's topic.

0:33.0

As I approach 40, I've realized something about friendships.

0:35.8

Making new ones can feel harder than explaining TikTok to my parents. But at the same time, I've realized something about friendships. Making new ones can feel harder than explaining

0:37.7

TikTok to my parents. But at the same time, I've learned I prefer a smaller circle, a circle

0:43.2

where the goal is to grow together, individually, body, mind, and spirit without jealousy

0:47.8

or competition, protecting peace while cultivating real meaningful connection. That's why I'm

0:53.2

excited to bring back Danielle Bayard Jackson on today's follow-up episode,

0:57.3

a relational health educator who has spent years studying the science of friendship.

1:00.9

She also has a book out called Fighting for Our Friendships,

1:03.6

The Science and Art of Conflict and Connection in Women's Relationships.

1:07.3

Today we revisit the three reasons why friendships after motherhood are so hard to make and

1:11.7

maintain, why strong female connections are vital for our mental health, how to handle

1:16.0

those passive friendships, and practical ways to find meaningful connections amidst the chaos

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