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Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

The Fog of Waiting - with Haviv Rettig Gur

Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

Ark Media

Society, October 7, Hamas, War, Foreign Policy, Geopolitics, Israel, News Commentary, News, Politics, Elections, Palestine, Dan Senor, Government

4.82.3K Ratings

🗓️ 23 October 2023

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Haviv Rettig Gur returns for our weekly conversation from Israel to provide real-time reporting and analysis on the war, and invaluable historical context. We wanted to check in with Haviv on increasing questions we are hearing from within Israel and the U.S. about -- as it relates to the call-up of reserves and the deployment along Israel's southern border - why 'hurry up and wait'? In this conversation we explore the 'known knowns' of equities that Israeli decision-makers must be balancing. Haviv, who is the political analyst at The Times of Israel. He was a long time reporter for the Times of Israel. He’s also working on a book. Haviv was also a combat medic in the IDF where he served in the reserves.

Transcript

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0:00.0

It's not clear that time isn't working for our advantage.

0:02.3

Now to outside observers, especially diaspora Jews, every day that passes,

0:08.7

the Palestinian campaign kicks up gear and everything feels more, right, it's more distanced from the massacre

0:15.1

and Gazan civilians are more in the news and everything feels like the window is

0:18.8

closing and that's a difference in perception because to the Israelis they do understand that a window is

0:23.8

closing around the world. But they're still finding bodies, so they don't care as much. They don't feel

0:29.3

that window closing.

0:33.0

It is Sunday, October 22nd 10.30 p.m. here in New York City. It is 5.30 a.m. on Monday

0:50.1

October 23rd in Israel.

0:53.2

Aviv Rettigur returns for our weekly conversation from Israel

0:57.2

to provide real-time reporting and analysis on the war

1:00.9

and invaluable historical context. I want to check in with

1:05.5

Aviv on increasing questions and growing worries. I'm hearing from friends

1:11.0

within Israel and also from within the United States about why, as it relates to the

1:16.0

call-up of reserves and the deployment along Israel's southern border, why the, well, why the sense of hurry up and wait? Well, there could be a number

1:27.5

of known knowns when it comes to all the equities that Israeli decision-makers must be balancing.

1:35.1

There's the desire, if not the operational need for a swift and devastating operation to

1:40.4

eradicate Hamas's terrorist and weapons infrastructure while allowing time

1:45.4

to exhaust all possible options for the return of the hostages before the

1:51.0

ground warfare commences.

1:53.0

And also at the same time trying to collect and analyze more intelligence and prepare for an operation

1:59.0

that hopefully does not get bogged down in Gaza.

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