You're listening to Family Talk, the radio broadcasting division of the James Dobson Family Institute.

I am that James Dobson, and I'm so pleased that you've joined us today.

For decades now, modern culture has worked tirelessly to blur and even vilify traditional gender roles.

At its heart, feminism has sought to undermine and overthrow the nuclear family.

But as believers, we know that God created men and women differently and for a good reason.

Today on family talk we will further explore these distinctions and the hollow promises of the

feminist movement.

In just a moment we'll conclude Dr Dobson's interview with two amazing and well-spoken women.

The first is Suzanne Venker.

She's been at our program before talking about other important topics.

She's a celebrated columnist, commentator, speaker, and a certified relationship coach.

Our other guest is Suzanne's aunt, the late Phyllis Schlaffley.

Phyllis was a prominent conservative voice for family values right up until her death in 2016. Mrs.

Schlaffley was a respected lawyer, a best-selling writer, and a compelling speaker.

She graduated from Washington University Law School and also Harvard University.

Mrs. Schlaffley also served on the Commission on the Bicentennial of the U.S. Constitution

for President Ronald Reagan.

These women will again use their book, The Flip Side of Feminism, as their guide for this conversation.

Here once again is our host, Dr. James Dobson, on this edition of Family Talk. Just from an historical point of view, Phyllis, take us back to the days of the ERA and

how you managed to stop that almost single-handedly. It was incredible to watch

because both houses of Congress had already passed it.

By the way, ERA stands for equal rights amendment

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