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Bold Names

The Five Step 'Algorithm' Driving Tesla’s Success

Bold Names

The Wall Street Journal

Technology

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 27 March 2026

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

What is the trick behind the Elon Musk school of management? In this episode of Bold Names, host Tim Higgins sits down with Jon McNeill, the former president of Tesla and current GM board member, to deconstruct the operating system that powered Tesla’s growth during his tenure. McNeill explains why he thinks automation should always come last, how to inject urgency into a corporate culture, and whether companies need an Elon Musk to reach the heights of innovation. To watch the video version of this episode, visit our WSJ Podcasts YouTube channel or the video page of WSJ.com. Check Out Past Episodes: Why This Tesla Pioneer Says the Cheap EV Market 'Sucks' Why Elon Musk’s Battery Guy Is Betting Big on Recycling ‘We Sell Scarcity:’ How Lamborghini Continues to Stay So Cool How Uber Plans to Win the Self-Driving Car Race Let us know what you think of the show. Email us at BoldNames@wsj.com. Sign up for the WSJ's free Technology newsletter.Read Tim Higgins’s column.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:28.9

and T supply. A lot is written about Elon Musk. What did he say when you told him you were going to write a book about your experience?

0:40.4

I got a thumbs up emoji.

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Thumbs up emoji.

0:43.4

That's like an adorcement.

0:45.6

This week on Bold Names, we're talking to John McNeil.

0:48.7

He's the former president of Tesla.

0:51.2

He's got a new book out called The Algorithm, and it's all about the lessons he learned

0:55.6

from working closely with Elon Musk. That's next. From the Wall Street Journal, I'm Tim Higgins.

1:03.1

This is Bold Names, where you'll hear from the leaders of the bold-named companies featured

1:07.5

in the Wall Street Journal. Today we ask, what's the secret sauce to the Elon Musk School of Management?

1:16.6

John McNeil, welcome to bold names. Thanks, Tim. I'm excited to have you here today. You've had a lot of big jobs, but you're probably best known for the time you served as president of Tesla when the company

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