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The First Worthy Criticism of Cynical Theories

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🗓️ 1 April 2021

⏱️ 62 minutes

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The New Discourses Podcast with James Lindsay, Episode 27 There is a fair amount of criticism of my recent book Cynical Theories (https://amzn.to/3sEJF5X) (written with Helen Pluckrose) out there now, mostly from philosophers who aren't up to the task. It is both fair and correct to say that the book isn't perfect. Given their inability to criticize the book adequately, however, I decided to take matters into my own hands and am discussing the issue at length in this episode of the New Discourses Podcast. Join me to hear what I think of these philosophers' criticisms (not much!) and what a proper criticism of the work would look like (and why the book "falls short" in this way). -James Lindsay Support New Discourses: paypal.me/newdiscourses newdiscourses.locals.com/support patreon.com/newdiscourses subscribestar.com/newdiscourses youtube.com/channel/UC9K5PLkj0N_b9JTPdSRwPkg/join Website: newdiscourses.com Follow: facebook.com/newdiscourses twitter.com/NewDiscourses instagram.com/newdiscourses newdiscourses.locals.com pinterest.com/newdiscourses linkedin.com/company/newdiscourses minds.com/newdiscourses reddit.com/r/NewDiscourses Podcast: @newdiscourses podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-…es/id1499880546 bit.ly/NDGooglePodcasts open.spotify.com/show/0HfzDaXI5L4LnJQStFWgZp stitcher.com/podcast/new-discourses © 2021 New Discourses. All rights reserved.

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0:00.0

Welcome friends to yet another exciting penetrating episode of the new Discourses podcast.

0:28.6

I'm James Lindsay and I'm going to talk to you about cynical theories. This is a book that I wrote

0:36.5

with Helen Pluckrose. I'm not going to talk to you actually about the book itself. I'm going to

0:41.2

talk to you about criticizing the book. I'm going to criticize my own work because I keep seeing

0:46.6

criticisms of it come up and frankly contrary to what the people criticizing my work tend to think

0:57.2

they are not the best experts in terms of what might be a shortcoming or what might be

1:05.0

wrong or whatever with cynical theories because I wrote the book. I'm better at it than they are

1:10.7

and I really do mean that. I am relentlessly critical of my own work typically and I have put

1:16.0

more thought probably than anybody else into what I could have done better and so I'm going to

1:21.5

give the criticism of cynical theories that my critics wish they could so that there's

1:25.9

look pathetic by comparison and so they kind of come up in a variety of genres but primarily they

1:34.2

take the form that we don't really understand the philosophers that we talk about in particular

1:40.3

that we don't understand the postmodernist so I'm going to talk about some postmodernism not

1:44.8

really about postmodernism. I'm going to talk about how we engage the material or the postmodernist

1:51.4

to write cynical theories. I'm going to put that out there make that clear and it will not necessarily

1:57.8

refute what these people are arguing but rather it's going to defuse or defang their argument that's

2:04.5

the goal is I'm going to take the fangs off of that argument. I also want to give kind of a short

2:09.6

I want to keep this one relatively short some of my new discourses podcast recently recently

2:14.1

been running long. I want to keep this one a little bit shorter if I can but I want to give kind of

2:18.3

an overview genealogy of wokeness and it's very difficult to do because it actually combines a

2:24.6

lot of lines of thought this won't be complete but those are the kinds of goals that I'm going to have.

2:29.2

So let's talk about how we wrote cynical theories. We have this bizarre belief and

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