The First Time Michael Saylor Ever Talked About Bitcoin
The Pomp Podcast
Anthony Pompliano
4.6 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 23 April 2026
⏱️ 90 minutes
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Summary
Michael Saylor is the CEO of Strategy (formerly MicroStrategy), the first publicly traded company to convert a material portion of its balance sheet into bitcoin. In this conversation, we revisit the very first time Michael Saylor ever publicly talked about bitcoin — recorded in late 2020 when bitcoin was trading around $10,000. We discuss his background founding MicroStrategy at age 24, the macro conditions that led him to reject cash as a store of value, why he chose bitcoin over gold and real estate, how he acquired $425 million in bitcoin without moving the market, and why he believes bitcoin is on a path to rival or surpass gold's market cap.
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- 0:00 - Intro
- 1:25 - Michael Saylor's background & founding MicroStrategyÂ
- 29:40 - The 99% stock crash & lessons learnedÂ
- 31:07 - How COVID changed MicroStrategy's businessÂ
- 33:37 - The macro problem: cash melting & asset inflationÂ
- 40:45 - How Saylor discovered bitcoinÂ
- 45:23 - Why not real estate, equities, or gold?Â
- 49:10 - Bitcoin's network dominance & why it already won
- 53:30 - Addressing the "someone can copy it" critiqueÂ
- 59:28 - Convincing the board: homework assignments & deliberationsÂ
- 1:04:30 - How they acquired $425M in bitcoin without moving priceÂ
- 1:09:45 - Reaction from other CEOs & breaking the mental blockÂ
- 1:12:00 - The four-minute mile moment for corporate bitcoinÂ
- 1:17:00 - Addressing bitcoin's volatilityÂ
- 1:21:39 - Bitcoin vs. gold market cap
- 1:23:10 - Rapid fire questions & closing
Transcript
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| 0:38.2 | that I did with Michael Saylor back in 2020. That video is the very first time that Michael Saylor |
| 0:44.0 | publicly talked about Bitcoin anywhere on the internet. The context here is that strategy, |
| 0:49.0 | which was known as micro strategy back then, had just put about $500 million from their balance sheet |
| 0:53.3 | into Bitcoin. It was the first public company to ever do that. |
| 0:56.6 | And I spoke with Michael because I wanted to understand who's Michael Saylor? |
| 1:00.4 | What is micro strategy? |
| 1:01.8 | Why are they doing this? |
| 1:03.1 | What are his thesis on Bitcoin and what is his plans for the future? |
| 1:06.7 | It is fascinating to listen to him talk about this in late 2020 when Bitcoin is trading |
| 1:10.8 | around $10,000 per coin to now see what has become one of the largest holdings of Bitcoin |
| 1:16.4 | in the world. |
| 1:18.1 | Strategy and Michael Saylor own more than 800,000 Bitcoin. |
| 1:21.2 | They've continued to relentlessly buy as much of the digital currency as they possibly |
| 1:24.7 | can. |
| 1:25.7 | And I think listening to this conversation will help you better understand what's happening there |
| 1:29.4 | and why so many people over the last six years or so |
| 1:32.8 | went from being skeptics to now being true believers. |
| 1:36.0 | So here's my conversation from the second half of 2020 |
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