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🗓️ 5 October 2025
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On Sundays, we try to bring you new conversations and episodes from the archives that provide a little context for the news of 2025. Today: a look back at the very first government shutdown, and how shutdowns have wrapped up budget fights and larger ideological battles before.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to This Day, a history show from Radiotopia. My name is Jody Avergan. |
| 0:09.7 | And this is our series we call Some Sunday Context. On Sundays, we try and bring you new conversations |
| 0:15.0 | and stories from the archives that might provide a little context for the news of today. |
| 0:23.3 | The big news of today, as you no doubt know, |
| 0:28.7 | is that the U.S. government is in a shutdown. I guess I should say as of this recording, but I don't think that's going to change anytime soon. And we've done a few episodes about shutdowns on this show, |
| 0:34.1 | so it might be instructive to listen back to some of them. We're going to run a |
| 0:37.7 | couple of them over the coming week. Today, we go all the way back to the very first shutdown |
| 0:43.4 | in the wake of the Civil War. Like a lot of people, I've been thinking about this most recent |
| 0:48.0 | shutdown and what it is really about. Of course, there's the pain it will inflict on people |
| 0:53.1 | who need government services or want to visit a national park, say, and of course the many government employees who aren't going to be getting paychecks. |
| 1:00.6 | But this is a lot more than just a funding fight. In many ways, Democrats these days are seeing this as their most tangible chance to take a stand against the efforts of the Trump administration to |
| 1:11.7 | dismantle government. So it is budgetary, it is political, and frankly, it is moral. And it turns |
| 1:17.9 | out the very first government shutdown included a lot of those elements as well. It wasn't just |
| 1:22.6 | about items on a spending bill. It wrapped in the huge questions and divisions of the Reconstruction era |
| 1:28.3 | and political realignment of that moment. So we have had shutdowns with this kind of larger |
| 1:34.5 | battle swirling around them before. Now, I don't know how reassuring it is to point that out, |
| 1:40.0 | given that the parallels I'm seeing are to the era after the Civil War and the rolling back of Reconstruction. |
| 1:46.0 | But anyway, it is a fascinating story and it does offer a little bit of context. |
| 1:51.4 | So here it is now. We recorded this a couple years ago. Take a listen. |
| 2:00.0 | Hello and welcome to this day in esoteric political history from Radiotopia. |
| 2:03.3 | My name is Jody Avergan. |
| 2:08.0 | This day, March 1879, it's America's first government shutdown. |
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