Hello and welcome to this day, a history show from Radiotopia. My name is Jody Avergan, and, well,

the government is still shut down as of this recording, as of this recording, but it's going to be

shut down for a while, I think. So last Sunday, we brought you an episode from the archives

about the very first government shutdown, and now we'll bring you an episode about what I think

is the first modern government shutdown. This was in 2013, Obama's second term, a couple years

before Donald Trump came onto the scene as a presidential candidate, but a shutdown that really

wrapped up so many of the political dynamics that are present in our modern era. It was born in many ways

of a fracturing in the GOP with new hardline figures on the scene, with a new playbook about

how to play the modern attention game. Folks who realize that in many ways, all news is good news.

And as you'll hear, the GOP may have played a short-term political price

being blamed for the shutdown, but long-term they established that playbook for pushing back

against Democrats. A few individuals whose names you know burnished their reputations. And yeah,

I think we are kind of living in the shadow of all of this. And it is something to keep in

mind as this current

shutdown grinds on. That yes, there are policy and fiscal issues in front of us, but when you think

about the short-term and long-term political fallout, those might not be the same. And in fact,

they are often at odds with each other and play against each other. So worth listening to

this episode, it is with the great Steve Kornacki,

always fun to have him on the show. This was recorded a couple years ago. Here we go.

Hello and welcome to This Day in esoteric political history from Radiotopia. My name is Jody Avergan.

This day, October 1st, 2013, the U.S. government entered a shutdown that would last 16 days. Congress was unable to pass a budget

for the next year, nor were they able to pass a continuing resolution for interim funds,

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