Hey there it's JVL on the secret show with Sarah Longwell today we talked about

Trump's indictment what else here's the show

let's talk about what the indictment means for Ron

DeSantis. Like let's just take it from Ron to Santis's world because I have

one of the things that is interesting to me is that we have been waiting to get a sign of what kind of candidate

Ron DeSantis is going to be in the last couple weeks. We've gotten a bunch of information. It's quite interesting. So first he

comes out and shows us, oh he's going to run right up alongside Trump on foreign policy and on

Ukraine. And then he gets yelled up by Republicans.

Okay, so we also learn that the dynamic is different with with

DeSantis than it is with Trump.

They're going to be willing to yell at him for his positions.

And then he walks it back, or he starts to he like pretzels he's like

he's like he's a war criminal right okay so all right okay Ron de

Santas can get bullied around a little bit, pushed around a little bit.

Doesn't quite know who he is.

Gotta do a little clean up on aisle 2024.

Okay, now, then we have shortly thereafter.

We have Trump announcing his own indictment and imminent arrest.

We can change before it actually happens.

And when Rhonda Santos has asked about he says,

I'm not going to do anything.

I'm not going to interfere.

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