The First Half of Life With Erin Sanzero

Everything Belongs: Living the Teachings of Richard Rohr Forward

Center for Action and Contemplation

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8 • 723 Ratings

🗓️ 20 March 2024

⏱️ 84 minutes

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"God gives us something better than answers, God gives us people." - Erin Sanzero, our guest today, on the path of falling upward during the first half of life. In this episode, we're joined by Erin Sanzero as we continue our chapter-by-chapter exploration of Falling Upward with Chapter 3: "The First Half of Life." Erin, alongside CAC staff, explore the complexities of the first half of life and the wisdom unveiled during the transition to the second half of life. Together, they reflect on how to embrace the "messy middle", found in-between the first and second half of life, how to forgive the past and engage in spiritual practices along the path of spiritual transformation. Before we dive in to the interview, CAC staff catch up with Richard at his hermitage to hear his reflections on the third chapter a decade after he originally wrote it. Erin Sanzero (she/her) is a "geriatric millennial." She's been a brick-and-mortar business owner, digital entrepreneur, musician, teacher, musical director, opera singer, banjo player, and weightlifter. A passionate believer in the arts, Erin holds a bachelor's in music from Manhattan School of Music and master's in music from Mannes College of Music in New York. Currently pursuing her master's of divinity from Duke University School and seeking ordination in the Presbyterian Church (USA), she is the Director of Sunday Express at Fairfax Presbyterian Church in Fairfax, Virginia. Erin is a 2023 alumna of the Center for Action and Contemplation's Living School. Resources: A PDF of the transcript for this episode is available here. Grab a copy of the newly revised version of Falling Upward, with a new foreword by Brené Brown here. To read Erin's Oneing Article "Midlife Musings", check it out on our website. Connect with us: Have a question or thought about this season that you'd like to share with us? Email us: podcasts@cac.org Send us a voicemail here: http://www.cac.org/voicemail

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0:00.0	You're listening to a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation.
0:04.0	To learn more, visit cac.org.
0:07.6	The bewildering and divine blessing of aging has been that redirection yields insights that transcend binary notions.
0:17.2	This dazzling quote comes to us from Aaron Sanzero's article, Midlife Musings in CAC's publication
0:24.5	wanting that thematically focused on falling upward. The precision of Aaron's words
0:30.9	articulates a wondrous gift that composts itself into generativity when received and recognized. When we sit with Richard in his
0:40.2	living room, we talk a lot about aging, the gifts and the challenges of it. Whenever we are on that
0:46.6	theme, it is natural for the framework of falling upward to come up as a structure malleable enough
0:52.7	to reflect on the trajectory of our lives.
0:56.9	In today's episode, we do just that.
1:00.5	Mike and I begin by opening up our conversation with Richard on the conditions that help us
1:05.5	grow up.
1:06.7	And when we do so, how our participation is both a catalyst for the expansion of ourselves,
1:12.7	as well as the traditions that we participate in.
1:19.6	From the Center for Action and Contemplation, I'm Mike Petro.
1:23.3	I'm Paul Swanson.
1:24.5	And this is Everything Belongs.
1:32.8	Thank you. I'm Paul Swanson, and this is Everything Belongs. All right, Richard, thanks again for having us here at your house, your hermitage,
1:37.8	to talk about chapter three from falling upward, the first half of life.
1:44.2	There's this quote that I find very useful for thinking about the first half of life and being
1:50.7	in conversation with friends, where you write that we ironically need limit situations and
1:58.5	boundaries to grow up.
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