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BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast

The Financial Freedom "Stack": Start with No Rentals, Retire Decades Early

BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast

BiggerPockets

Education, Investing, Business

4.816.6K Ratings

🗓️ 11 March 2026

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

This is the proven path to becoming a real estate millionaire, retiring early, and gaining complete financial independence. It’s not hard, but it takes time, work, and forethought. If you can follow this financial freedom “stack,” you’ll be able to retire early, or retire much richer, like today’s guest.  Andrew Giancola, host of The Personal Finance Podcast, beat the system. He reached financial independence in his 30s, not through luck, market timing, or big bets, but through slow, smart money moves and purchasing enough rentals to buy back his time. He reverse-engineered his path, creating the 11-step financial freedom “stack” that anyone can use to become a millionaire and retire early. The “stack” starts at the beginning. You don’t need any money or experience to start. The genius part of the system is that it almost automatically puts you in the best possible position to invest, reinvest, and finally retire how you want. We’re going into detail on each step of the “stack” so you can follow it, find financial freedom, and live life completely on your terms.  In This Episode We Cover The 11 (repeatable) steps to go from no rentals to complete financial freedom  How to trade your time for rental properties (if you’re starting with no money) The least amount of money you should have before you begin investing  How much do you need to retire? Calculating your “freedom number” fast Still got “bad” debt? What to do ASAP before buying your first rental  How to pick a real estate investing strategy based on your savings  Don’t just invest in rentals: Why Andrew and Dave think "100% rentals" is too risky  “Wealth accelerators” that supercharge your net worth  And So Much More! Check out more resources from this show on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BiggerPockets.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠h⁠ttps://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/real-estate-1250 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠advertise@biggerpockets.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Here's a simple rule for building wealth through real estate. Get your own financial house in order

0:05.0

before you go buy someone else's. Today's guest has bought dozens of properties and he reached

0:10.6

financial freedom in his 30s. And his secret isn't finding better deals. It's actually

0:15.7

having a rock solid financial foundation underneath his investing, saving money, using leverage,

0:23.2

managing risk. And he's created a system around these ideas that help him build millions of

0:28.8

dollars in equity. And today, he's sharing all 11 steps so you can do the same.

0:55.3

What's up, friends? Dave Meyer here, chief investment officer at Bigger Pockets. My guest today on the show is Andrew Giancola. He's the host of the Personal Finance podcast. Andrew has successfully bought, operated, and sold many different businesses, and that includes several years as a full-time real estate investor. And through those experiences, he's seen one skill set that separates the

1:00.5

investors who succeed from those who fail. It's a strong understanding of personal finance.

1:06.7

So Andrew actually built a system around it. He calls it the financial freedom stack, and it combines real estate investing strategies

1:14.0

with financial best practices, like emergency funds and market exposure, into one simple

1:20.2

and repeatable package.

1:22.3

Today on the show, he's breaking down this 11-step framework to show you exactly when

1:26.9

you should be saving, when you should be investing, when you should be paying down debt, and when it's time to scale your portfolio. If you want to build wealth in real estate without feeling financially stretched, this episode will show you exactly how. Let's bring on Andrew. Andrew, welcome to the Bigger Pockets podcast. Great to have you. Dave, thank you so much for having me. I am so excited to be here. For people who don't know Andrew or his podcast yet, maybe you could just give us a brief introduction of who you are and how you're involved in the real estate and investing space. Sure. So my name is Andrew Jincola. I am the host of the personal finance podcast. And my entire goal with

2:02.6

that show is to actually create a million millionaires. That's the initial goals that I had when I set

2:07.4

out to create the personal finance podcast. And our entire goal is to kind of empower you with your money.

2:12.5

And that is the big thing that we do over there. And so I started investing in real estate back in the day where I

2:18.8

was a sweat equity partner. So I was a sweat equity partner with two cash partners and got into

2:23.5

real estate in 2015 and then exited and kind of sold my portfolio with those partners in 2018.

2:30.8

We've got a lot of cool stuff just within those last couple of years. It is something

2:35.1

that is one of my favorite ways to invest overall and something we talk about all the time in the

2:39.8

show and it is a huge, huge deal for the things that we talk about every day. Let's talk about

2:45.1

your wealth building journey a little bit though. So it sounds like you've done a lot of stuff,

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