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Dirty John

The Final Word on Manson: Part 1

Dirty John

L.A. Times Studios

Los Angeles, Bravo, La Times, Christopher Goffard, News, Society & Culture, Chris Goffard, Los Angeles Times, True Crime

4.642.7K Ratings

🗓️ 18 March 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

The last living prosecutor of Charles Manson gives an inside account of the trial and the cult leader’s deadly vision. Stephen Kay recalls the case that still haunts America. New episodes every Tuesday. To read more about these cases, visit Crimes of the Times at latimes.com Video episodes will be available on Spotify and Youtube.

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0:00.0

This is an LA Times Studios podcast.

0:07.0

Welcome to Crimes of the Times. I'm Christopher Gafford. Today on our show, we're shifting to the conversation format, which we expect to be doing now and then.

0:16.3

This is the first of a two-part conversation with Stephen Kay, the former Los Angeles County Deputy District

0:22.6

Attorney who prosecuted Charles Manson and his killer disciples. Kay is one of the last living links

0:29.6

to a case that has generated a shelfload of books and mountains of think pieces. First, some basic

0:36.4

background.

0:39.3

On August 9, 1969,

0:42.7

Charles Manson sent a team of his loyal disciples to the home of the actress Sharon Tate

0:45.5

in the hills above Los Angeles.

0:47.9

The Manson soldiers murdered Tate,

0:49.7

who was 26 years old and eight months pregnant,

0:53.1

and four others at her house on Ciello Drive.

0:56.2

A newspaper headline called it a blood orgy, and much of Hollywood suddenly felt terrifyingly

1:01.8

vulnerable. Adding to the weirdness and a lot of crazed speculation, Sharon Tate's husband,

1:07.9

Roman Polansky, was famous for directing Rosemary's Baby, a horror movie about a satanic cult and a woman pregnant with the devil's baby.

1:17.4

The day after the Sialo Drive killings, the Manson clan broke into a lost felon's home and murdered a couple who had not been famous, Lino Labyanka, who owned a chain of grocery stores, and his wife,

1:29.1

Rosemary. Police found messages scrawled in blood around the house, death to pigs, and helter-skelter.

1:37.3

These are the seven murders most commonly associated with Charles Manson, though there were others,

1:43.1

possibly many others.

1:44.9

Manson was a career criminal with uncommon charisma, a ragged outlaw Messiah with an apocalyptic

1:50.7

outlook who oversaw a small nomadic cult that came to be known as the family, mostly young

1:57.8

women whom he plied with endless doses of acid and used to lure men into his orbit.

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