Mark Oppenheimer. Hi, it's Tori Spelling here, the OG Donna Martin from Beverly Hills, 90210.

Your podcast family tells me some fun info that you are retiring from the number one Jewish podcast unorthodox after my mind blown 360 episodes in seven years.

Oh my gosh, amazing. But my catchphrase was Donna Martin graduates, Donna Martin graduates. So now I can officially say it. Mark Oppenheimer retireates. Mark Oppenheimer retireates.

This is an orthodox. The universe is leading Jewish podcast. It would just got even better. Oh my was that really hard? Yes it was. Oh, I have so many feelings. This is wow.

So today is my last episode of the show. I think it's episode 360. It is, right? Right? Which for those of you who are Jewishly inclined know is a multiple of 18 and therefore a good number for a bar mitzvah gift or a bot mitzvah gift or a run on a podcast. And I'm here hosting for the final time.

I'm Leo Stephanie. I'm here with my co host, Leo and Stephanie. Hello. I figured the market so it would involve interviewing my sadistic fourth grade teacher, maybe some siblings, maybe Archie the dog. I did not know Tori Spelling was coming. We went big. Should we just stop there? We're not going to top that. There's no way I think I think we're not going to top that. I think we might. There's a whole episode coming up for those of you who don't know. And if you don't know, you haven't listened to enough unorthodox. Tori Spelling played Donna Martin of the original run of Beverly Hills 90210. She also, I mean, she's she's

epical. And for those of you who don't know who she is, go you have a lot of TV watching to catch up on, but she's a very, very special person, very special TV character in my

his school years. Tori Spelling who played Donna Martin was one of the most important actresses of I would say of the 90s. I would say ever of all time. Ever. Yeah. Where do we go from their friends? I want to go back to the beginning. I want to go back

to December 2nd, 2008, when I sent an email. I was a senior in in college. And I wanted to write about religion. And I sent a cold email to

someone. And I'd like to read it now on the air. Master music, please.

Hi, Mr. Oppenheimer. Laura Lieber gave me your contact information and suggested I get in touch with you.

With Laura Lieber. Yep, it always does. We should have had Tori Spelling read this. Hi, Mr. Oppenheimer. I mean, she made up the word Retirates Mark Oppenheimer Retirates. So we can never, we can never talk about that. She's a genius storyteller. I've been reading your website and have really enjoyed your articles on religions. I went to HTTP.

I love your website. I love to talk to you and ask you some questions to learn more about your work. Do you have any time in the next few weeks to talk through

your email or on the phone? Please let me know. It works for you. Thanks so much. Stephanie, you wrote back like hours later. I'd be happy to talk any time.

Exclamation mark. My office phone is.

And then you never called.

To me, this exchange is everything completely stirred me up. Well, I was like, wait, I'm supposed to call him. And so we're having this call right now. Stephanie, please.

You have Mark talk to me. This is, this is who you are. You know, you get a cold email out of the blue from someone at a different school who wants

who's clearly proves your website for 10 minutes and wanted to talk to you. And you said, great, call me.

And you did a few things in that, which is so Mark, right? You said, I'm super happy to talk. Make the call.

And like you were actually giving me a journalism test without even realizing it, right? Or maybe you did. It was Mark. Yeah.

Well, you're like, great. If you can pick up the phone and call me, I will talk to you for hours. And I think that that to me is like everything about you.

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