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Deconstructed

The Final Debate

Deconstructed

The Intercept

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4.84.7K Ratings

🗓️ 23 October 2020

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Donald Trump and Joe Biden met for their final debate before the 2020 election on Thursday night. Trump continued his recent attacks on Biden’s son Hunter and his foreign business dealings, while Biden went after Trump’s mismanagement of the Covid-19 pandemic. Who got the best of the encounter? Rising host Krystal Ball and former Deconstructed host Mehdi Hasan join the show to break down the debate.

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0:00.0

I'm Ryan Grimm. Welcome to Deconstructed.

0:10.0

This is going to be bigger than four years ago. There's more enthusiasm. The crowds are bigger.

0:17.5

Donald Trump has spent the 2020 campaign and arguably his entire presidency trying to recreate

0:23.0

the conditions that brought him his improbable victory four years ago. He still rails against

0:28.3

crooked Hillary. And he clings to the hope that once again a laptop and its salacious

0:35.1

contents will swing things his way. But there's a problem with that plan. Trump is running

0:51.9

against Joe Biden, not Hillary Clinton. Trump's major advantage against Clinton came down

0:57.0

to perceptions of their respective integrity. By the fall of 2016, Trump was even outpacing

1:03.1

Clinton on the question of who was more honest and trustworthy, a startling data point given

1:07.8

Trump's Olympian pension for dishonesty. Trump doesn't have that edge against Biden,

1:12.6

and it helps explain why attacks that stuck to Clinton slide off Biden's back. For his

1:17.3

approach to work, Trump really needs a major corruption scandal to erode Biden's image,

1:22.3

deserved or not as a trustworthy and honest man. Where Gallup found 33% of voters believed

1:28.8

Clinton was honest and trustworthy in 2016, this year, that number is 52 for Biden. In that

1:35.8

gap lies Biden's decisive electoral edge. In a world where voters aren't enthusiastic

1:41.3

about either candidate, they side with the one they find less objectionable. Right now,

1:46.7

that's Joe Biden.

1:48.4

The Trump campaign's hope is that two weeks of conversation about Hunter Biden's influence

1:52.8

peddling, ginned up by Rudy Giuliani, can narrow the gap enough to eke out a win. That's

1:58.8

probably a fool's errand for any number of reasons. One major problem for Trump is that

2:03.7

even with emails and text messages showing Hunter and his business partners clearly

2:07.6

intent on leveraging the Biden name for financial gain, nothing definitively sticks to Joe

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