Okay, we are live. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to William Ramsey Investigates on today's show. I'm a very special guest or a returning guest. His name is Phil Baker. His website is phil S. Baker.com. You can check him out there. He was on my show two years ago. We discussed a great book. I highly recommend that. I'll put a link to our discussion. That book was Faithful Witness, the early church's theology of martyrdom.

And he's just come out with a new book. Today is September 9th. This was published on Amazon,

September 5th, 2023. And the new book, which I've read through, his title is the final

abominable temple. Really interesting book. And Phil lives in Texas with his two children. He's also written

another book, New Wineskins and the Simple Words of Christ. And he also is a musician as well. So feel

free to check out his stuff. But again, we're going to talk about his new book, the final

Abonable Temple. So Phil Baker, welcome back to the show. Man, brother, thank you so much for having me on. Love everything you're doing, brother.

Oh, cool.

I appreciate it.

Thanks.

I have kind of like an interesting suite of genres and topics that may not look together all

at once.

It's kind of like a Mondela or something odd like that, like a interesting mix.

So hopefully somebody can find something interesting in my catalog. Well, Mondela or something odd like that, like a interesting mix.

So hopefully somebody can find something interesting in my catalog, which I'm now over a thousand shows.

I've actually done a lot of shows.

Yeah.

So for people who may not have heard our last discussion, Phil, can you kind of do a little

bit of background?

And then what led you up to writing this new book, the final abominable temple?

Yeah, for sure.

You know, I got a classical Christian education, you could say,

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